"If we can accuse him of #2, by your own admission, then we can accuse him of lying. "
By that definition, everyone in DC is a liar, including King Obama. And I had no "admission". I told Dana that she may have an argument for misleading. I didn't say he was misleading. You seen the new headline? Obamacare to cost $1.76 trillion over 10 yrs Gee, what did the "liar" in chief say? Maybe it was: Now, add it all up, and the plan I'm proposing will cost around $900 billion over 10 years . That's a little misleading don't you think? So, I'd rather go with definition number 1. Definition number 2 is way to broad. I would rather call that "misleading". If you choose definition number 2, then so be it. If Dana chooses definition number 2, does she feel the same way about the other reporters and politicians who do the same. If you don't like that example about Obama, I can give you dozens more. I can even give you some outright lies like this: Ive pledged that I will not sign health insurance reform as badly as I think its necessary, I wont sign it if that reform adds even one dime to our deficit. - Barrack Obama Of course, he can tell the truth: The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and * inefficiencies* to our health care system. - Barack Obama J - 08-11-2009: I have not said that I was a single-payer supporter, because, frankly, we historically have had a employer-based system in this country, with private insurers, and for us to transition to a system like that, I believe would be too disruptive. 06-30-2003: A single-payer health care plan, a universal health care plan. That's what Id like to see. - Barack Obama 03-24-2007: My commitment is to make sure that we've got universal healthcare for all Americans by the end of my first term as president. I would hope that we could set up a system that allows those who can't go through their employer to access a federal system or a state pool of some sort. But I don't think we're going to be able to eliminate employer coverage immediately. There's going to be potentially some transition process. I can envision a decade out, or 15 years out, or 20 years out. - Barack ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:348514 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm