On Mon, Apr 2, 2012 at 3:13 PM, Judah McAuley <ju...@wiredotter.com> wrote:

> Will 100% of jails adopt this as standard operating procedure? I don't
> know. I do know, however, that the Supreme Court has just said that it
> is perfectly acceptable for them to do so. That's the disturbing part.


The court said they can, if they want to.  Which is giving the choice to
the jail/jurisdiction/etc.  If you don't think a jail can be trusted with
this, why do you think a jail would adhere to "reasonable cause" or other
concepts brought up earlier in the thread.


> And I hate the routine degradation of our constitutional rights. The
> Supreme Court just said that it was perfectly acceptable for a man to
> get strip searched *twice* because they thought he hadn't paid a fine.
>

No, not because he didn't pay a fine, but because he was sent to jail.  Two
completely different things.  The Supreme Court gave no ruling about wether
or not he should have been sent to jail in the first place, only what could
happen (at the jail's discretion) once he was sent there.


> That's not extremist rhetoric, Cam. Those are straight up facts in the
> case. Justice Kennedy wrote, in the actual ruling, "every detainee who
> will be admitted to the general population may be required to undergo
> a close visual inspection while undressed."
>

Yes. Which is completely different than, and directly contradicts  "Supreme
Court just said that it was perfectly acceptable for a man to get strip
searched *twice* because they thought he hadn't paid a fine."

They said "Those who are admitted to jail are subject to routine jail
procedures". They did NOT say, "If you don't pay a fine, you should get
sent to jail and strip searched.


> So where is my extremist rhetoric, Cam?


Mainly in your emails, though you probably speak it out loud too. Though I
can't really say for sure, I don't think we've had a beer before.  :)

-Cameron

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