individual cases not group trends. But also remember about California, it had a republican legislature and governor when many of those laws were passed.
On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 9:36 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > California is hardly is Republican bastion and has one of the highest rates > of incarceration. > > Your bias is showing. > > Let's debate on the merits of an idea and leave party politics out of it. > At this point both parties ate controlled by monied special interests and > not their constituents. > > On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 8:52 AM, Larry C. Lyons <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> In one sense this is the result of years of such laws as 3 strikes an >> you're out, increasing minimal penalties, and in a lot of republican >> controlled states the elimination of parole and early release and the >> elimination of various social programs intended to help ex cons >> reintegrate and prevent them from getting back into crime. All of >> which results in a huge prison population. So what do you expect when >> get tough the be all and end all mantra of the reich wing. >> >> On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 9:07 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > They had to release 30,000 inmates due to overcrowding and horrible care. >> > >> > >> http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/05/23/us-california-prisons-court-idUSTRE74M3DQ20110523 >> > >> > How people can claim we aren't living in a police state is beyond me. Do >> > you know we jail more people than anyone else in the world? >> > >> > >> http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/23/world/americas/23iht-23prison.12253738.html?pagewanted=all >> > >> > We have roughly 5% of the worlds population and 25% of the worlds prison >> > population. Many of these arrests can be laid directly at the feet of >> the >> > failed drug war, with other victimless or non-violent crimes making up >> > large portions. >> > >> > Additionally someone that may go in for a relatively minor charge has to >> > deal with such violence, and such life changing events (rape?), that they >> > often come out far worse than they went in. >> > >> > I was in the system for several years as a teenager, until I was >> > emancipated at 16. I know that the juvenile system in NY was far easier >> > than the adult system, but I still saw some really screwed up shit when I >> > was in residential and gillies. >> > >> > On Sun, Apr 15, 2012 at 8:54 PM, Jerry Barnes <critic...@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> Zimmerman should be thankful that he isn't jailed in LA. >> >> >> >> >> >> More Evidence U.S. Police Brutality Is Out Of Control: >> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=0kE9MDUEh8o >> >> >> >> J >> >> >> >> - >> >> >> >> Ninety percent of politicians give the other ten percent a bad >> reputation. >> >> - Henry Kissinger >> >> >> >> Politicians are people who, when they see light at the end of the >> tunnel, >> >> go out and buy some more tunnel. - John Quinton >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:349842 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
