Gary Johnson. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > agreed, but nobody running even vaguely comes close to ideal in my eyes. > Process problem, I think. So to answer aphorism with aphorism, why let the > perfect become the enemy of the the good? Ish? > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 8:49 AM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > The lesser of two evils is still evil. > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > shrug. Maybe it's an orchestrated gesture. It's still an improvement > over > > > the gestures, orchestrated and not, that Romney is making > > > > > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > FUCK THE GESTURE. > > > > > > > > its lame. he's lame. > > > > > > > > the quote from cnn takes the fucking cake. > > > > > > > > "I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take > > > > this position before the election and before the convention," > > > > > > > > douche. bag. > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > heh. I agree with about half of that. But. > > > > > > > > > > AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE. > > > > > > > > > > some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much. > > > > > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_1485757734_n.jpg > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him > > and I > > > > >> gather > > > > >> > you didn't > > > > >> > > > > > >> > support due to his actions in regards to privacy, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > definitely a disappointment in this area > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > in continuing Bush era policies, > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > and this one > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > Inherited, and handicapped by the mistaken assumption that the > > > > >> Republicans > > > > >> > would do the right thing. So his error, sure. But there is more > > than > > > > >> enough > > > > >> > blame to go around on this one, starting with the disastrous tax > > > > policies > > > > >> > of his predecessor. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > He > > > > >> > > has shown time and again that he doesn't feel the need to meet > > his > > > > >> > campaign > > > > >> > > promises (or those given in office) > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > he tries to show good faith but he concedes way too much upfront > > to > > > > >> people > > > > >> > who have publicly pledged not to compromise with him. > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > and he is failing to inspire the youth > > > > >> > > vote > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > duh, after all that, was he inspiring *anyone*? > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > and the independent vote the way he did last election, so in > > > > >> > > traditional wag the dog manner, with Houdini like reflexes, > he's > > > > >> changed > > > > >> > > everyone's focus. > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say something closer to maybe he > > > said > > > > >> what > > > > >> > the hell, I'll either win or I won't and if I lose it may as > well > > be > > > > for > > > > >> > trying to do what I want for a change.... > > > > >> > > > > > >> > That's my take > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > once Biden opened his mouth Obama would have looked weak if > he > > > > tried > > > > >> to > > > > >> > > > spin it. And the Defense of Marriage crew weren't going to > be > > on > > > > his > > > > >> > side > > > > >> > > > for the most part anyway, with the exception of the > > > fundamentalist > > > > >> > black > > > > >> > > > community. They are the question mark. Don't think they'll > > vote > > > > >> against > > > > >> > > > Obama but they might not vote for him. > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > > > > >> larrycly...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > I think that he was simply being honest about what he > > thought > > > > about > > > > >> > > > > it. I guess he would have preferred to wait but after > Biden > > > > decided > > > > >> > to > > > > >> > > > > speak out, he thought he had no real reason not to. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > Essentially it may be an empty issue, and best to get it > out > > > of > > > > the > > > > >> > > > > way now rather than at a more critical point in the > > election. > > > > Which > > > > >> > is > > > > >> > > > > probably good because it shifts the conversation to more > > > > important > > > > >> > > > > things, like the record of Mitt Romney viciously > assaulting > > > > other > > > > >> > kids > > > > >> > > > > with scissors. during high school > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM, GMoney < > gm0n3...@gmail.com > > > > > > > >> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I agree....this does not seem to help him > politically...at > > > > least > > > > >> in > > > > >> > > the > > > > >> > > > > > short term. I thought that was refreshing. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > BUT....politicians rarely do things that don't seem to > > help > > > > them > > > > >> > > > > > politically....so maybe the Obama folks see a different > > > angle > > > > on > > > > >> > this > > > > >> > > > > that > > > > >> > > > > > I don't. > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > > > > >> > > larrycly...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > > >wrote: > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> He really gains nothing from it. If anything it hurts > > him. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> The teahadis who are mostly against same sex marriage > are > > > not > > > > >> > going > > > > >> > > to > > > > >> > > > > >> vote for him anyhow. Those on the left will probably > vote > > > for > > > > >> him > > > > >> > > > > >> regardless, what other choice do they have. It will > cost > > > him > > > > >> with > > > > >> > a > > > > >> > > > > >> lot of conservative black voters though. They are not > > going > > > > to > > > > >> > vote > > > > >> > > > > >> for Mittens, but they most likely will just stay home > in > > > > >> November. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LRS Scout < > > > > lrssc...@gmail.com> > > > > >> > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > Political move to secure his left wing in an upcoming > > > > election > > > > >> > > year > > > > >> > > > > >> cycle. > > > > >> > > > > >> > No more no less. > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts < > > > > >> > > > > >> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> yeah...that was awesome. it is never too late to do > > the > > > > >> right > > > > >> > > > thing. > > > > >> > > > > >> >> Biden did sorta give him a kick in the backside on > > this. > > > > Go > > > > >> > Joe! > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dana < > > > > >> dana.tier...@gmail.com > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I > > did > > > > want > > > > >> > to > > > > >> > > > > note in > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > passing that I applaud Obama for saying something > > > about > > > > >> this > > > > >> > > when > > > > >> > > > > the > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > conventional wisdom was that it was not in his own > > > best > > > > >> > > interests > > > > >> > > > > to > > > > >> > > > > >> do > > > > >> > > > > >> >> so. > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > Even if he was pushed :) He still did the right > > thing > > > > and I > > > > >> > > > think a > > > > >> > > > > >> >> little > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > less cynically of him now because he did. > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350639 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
