The lesser of two evils is still evil. On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 11:39 AM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > shrug. Maybe it's an orchestrated gesture. It's still an improvement over > the gestures, orchestrated and not, that Romney is making > > On Fri, May 11, 2012 at 5:34 AM, Ras Tafari <rastaf...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > FUCK THE GESTURE. > > > > its lame. he's lame. > > > > the quote from cnn takes the fucking cake. > > > > "I had already made a decision that we were going to probably take > > this position before the election and before the convention," > > > > douche. bag. > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 11:17 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > heh. I agree with about half of that. But. > > > > > > AT LEAST HE MADE THE GESTURE. > > > > > > some sort of sanity in a year that hasn't had very much. > > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 8:12 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/531699_331943153542824_103005129769962_804362_1485757734_n.jpg > > >> > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 10:50 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > >> > > >> > > > >> > I think that's kinda true except I started from supporting him and I > > >> gather > > >> > you didn't > > >> > > > >> > support due to his actions in regards to privacy, > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > definitely a disappointment in this area > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > in continuing Bush era policies, > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > and this one > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > in the ever growing national debt and the horrible economy. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Inherited, and handicapped by the mistaken assumption that the > > >> Republicans > > >> > would do the right thing. So his error, sure. But there is more than > > >> enough > > >> > blame to go around on this one, starting with the disastrous tax > > policies > > >> > of his predecessor. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > He > > >> > > has shown time and again that he doesn't feel the need to meet his > > >> > campaign > > >> > > promises (or those given in office) > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > he tries to show good faith but he concedes way too much upfront to > > >> people > > >> > who have publicly pledged not to compromise with him. > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > and he is failing to inspire the youth > > >> > > vote > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > duh, after all that, was he inspiring *anyone*? > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > and the independent vote the way he did last election, so in > > >> > > traditional wag the dog manner, with Houdini like reflexes, he's > > >> changed > > >> > > everyone's focus. > > >> > > > > >> > I wouldn't put it that way. I'd say something closer to maybe he > said > > >> what > > >> > the hell, I'll either win or I won't and if I lose it may as well be > > for > > >> > trying to do what I want for a change.... > > >> > > > >> > That's my take > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 7:06 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > once Biden opened his mouth Obama would have looked weak if he > > tried > > >> to > > >> > > > spin it. And the Defense of Marriage crew weren't going to be on > > his > > >> > side > > >> > > > for the most part anyway, with the exception of the > fundamentalist > > >> > black > > >> > > > community. They are the question mark. Don't think they'll vote > > >> against > > >> > > > Obama but they might not vote for him. > > >> > > > > > >> > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:24 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > > >> larrycly...@gmail.com > > >> > > > >wrote: > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > I think that he was simply being honest about what he thought > > about > > >> > > > > it. I guess he would have preferred to wait but after Biden > > decided > > >> > to > > >> > > > > speak out, he thought he had no real reason not to. > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > Essentially it may be an empty issue, and best to get it out > of > > the > > >> > > > > way now rather than at a more critical point in the election. > > Which > > >> > is > > >> > > > > probably good because it shifts the conversation to more > > important > > >> > > > > things, like the record of Mitt Romney viciously assaulting > > other > > >> > kids > > >> > > > > with scissors. during high school > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 5:13 PM, GMoney <gm0n3...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > I agree....this does not seem to help him politically...at > > least > > >> in > > >> > > the > > >> > > > > > short term. I thought that was refreshing. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > BUT....politicians rarely do things that don't seem to help > > them > > >> > > > > > politically....so maybe the Obama folks see a different > angle > > on > > >> > this > > >> > > > > that > > >> > > > > > I don't. > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Larry C. Lyons < > > >> > > larrycly...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >wrote: > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> He really gains nothing from it. If anything it hurts him. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> The teahadis who are mostly against same sex marriage are > not > > >> > going > > >> > > to > > >> > > > > >> vote for him anyhow. Those on the left will probably vote > for > > >> him > > >> > > > > >> regardless, what other choice do they have. It will cost > him > > >> with > > >> > a > > >> > > > > >> lot of conservative black voters though. They are not going > > to > > >> > vote > > >> > > > > >> for Mittens, but they most likely will just stay home in > > >> November. > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:31 PM, LRS Scout < > > lrssc...@gmail.com> > > >> > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > Political move to secure his left wing in an upcoming > > election > > >> > > year > > >> > > > > >> cycle. > > >> > > > > >> > No more no less. > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 3:02 PM, Eric Roberts < > > >> > > > > >> > ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> yeah...that was awesome. it is never too late to do the > > >> right > > >> > > > thing. > > >> > > > > >> >> Biden did sorta give him a kick in the backside on this. > > Go > > >> > Joe! > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> On Thu, May 10, 2012 at 12:17 PM, Dana < > > >> dana.tier...@gmail.com > > >> > > > > >> > > > > wrote: > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > I usually am not that engaged on this issue, but I did > > want > > >> > to > > >> > > > > note in > > >> > > > > >> >> > passing that I applaud Obama for saying something > about > > >> this > > >> > > when > > >> > > > > the > > >> > > > > >> >> > conventional wisdom was that it was not in his own > best > > >> > > interests > > >> > > > > to > > >> > > > > >> do > > >> > > > > >> >> so. > > >> > > > > >> >> > Even if he was pushed :) He still did the right thing > > and I > > >> > > > think a > > >> > > > > >> >> little > > >> > > > > >> >> > less cynically of him now because he did. > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:350632 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
