The Eskimos had something that was like an outrigger. I forget the term used for it offhand
-----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:16 PM To: cf-community Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America Not sure about that Eric, I've been in umiaks and while they float I wouldn't want to have to paddle more than a few miles across open water in one of them. BTW wrong culture, outriggers are asian not inuit. On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Eric Roberts <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Yes...the Inuit's go to the Atlantic coast and would have had capable craft. > The coastal tribes would have subsisted on marine mammals and would > have had boats, more than likely outriggers that would have had the > stability to be on the ocean and would have been able to make to the islands. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com] > Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:42 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of > America > > > yeah I got that part. What I was thinking about was which indigenous > peoples were around to get infected in the first place. Did the Inuit > go that far east? The Cree? Did they have boats capable of getting > there from the mainland? Just thinking out loud. > > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons > <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote: > >> >> Its on the island of Newfoundland. According to current theory it was >> more of an exploration base rather than the Viking settlement. >> Moreover the climate then was warmer, very similar to what they were >> used to in Greenland and Iceland. >> >> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > Don't know. There's quite a bit of information here if anyone wants >> > to >> read >> > it -- don't have time to do more than skim today myself, tho I'm >> interested >> > in an academic way: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland >> > >> > An alternate theory is that there may not have been many Native >> > American settlements right there - L'Anse aux Meadows is not the >> > most hospitable place I'd guess, based on geography. And hmm, what > people would that be? >> > Inuit? Wouldn't you need more than a kayak to get there? On the >> > other >> hand, >> > the wiki article seems to be saying the Norse were visiting a >> > region a >> lot >> > bigger than that. >> > >> > It's an interesting question. >> > >> > >> > >> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons >> ><larrycly...@gmail.com >> >wrote: >> > >> >> >> >> I was thinking that Greenland had regular contact with Norway and >> >> Denmark, not exactly the most isolated of areas. I would have >> >> expected that mainly after the settlement of the vinland theree >> >> would have been some outbreak. >> >> >> >> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> >> > no epidemics going on there at the time they left? Also, didn't >> >> > the >> >> people >> >> > who landed in Newfoundland and Quebec come from the Greenland >> >> settlements? >> >> > They would have been pretty isolated from disease vectors in >> >> > Europe >> (?) >> >> > Just thinking out loud -- I don't know any more about this than >> >> > I just >> >> read. >> >> > >> >> > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Larry C. Lyons < >> larrycly...@gmail.com >> >> >wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> I did a couple of archeological field schools in college. One >> >> >> was at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. I sincerely hope >> >> >> that the winters were mild there (they were not), because those >> >> >> huts were pretty miserable. While most of the six weeks were >> >> >> just scraping away as the dirt, I did find a couple of flint >> >> >> arrowheads at about the right >> depth >> >> >> for the time period. So at the very least there were locals >> >> >> near the Vikings campsite roughly around the same time as the >> >> >> Viking > Sagas. >> >> >> >> >> >> One thing about that massive disease outbreak after Spain >> >> >> started sending ships to the west, why didn't something similar >> >> >> happen when the Vikings came over? >> >> >> >> >> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Eric Roberts >> >> >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> > You should go to Chillicothe Maureen... You can still hear >> >> >> > the >> voices >> >> >> > echoing... >> >> >> > >> >> >> > -----Original Message----- >> >> >> > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com] >> >> >> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:32 PM >> >> >> > To: cf-community >> >> >> > Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding >> >> >> > of >> >> America >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Eric Roberts >> >> >> > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Chillicothe, OH. Other mounds in their culture include the >> >> >> >> mounds just east of St. Louis, MO in Cahokia, IL. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > I visited the Cahokia mounds about 15 years ago. Beautiful >> >> >> > spot, >> but >> >> >> > spiritually dead. When those folks left they took everything >> >> >> > with >> >> them, >> >> >> > even their power. >> >> >> > >> >> >> > The Rock Eagle Mound in east Georgia, however, is still so >> >> >> > powerful >> >> that >> >> >> the >> >> >> > air around it sings. It would have been magical to attend >> >> >> > one of >> the >> >> >> > ceremonies there >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:351519 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm