The Eskimos had something that was like an outrigger.  I forget the term
used for it offhand


-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:16 PM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America


Not sure about that Eric, I've been in umiaks and while they float I
wouldn't want to have to paddle more than a few miles across open water in
one of them.

BTW wrong culture, outriggers are asian not inuit.

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> Yes...the Inuit's go to the Atlantic coast and would have had capable
craft.
> The coastal tribes would have subsisted on marine mammals and would 
> have had boats, more than likely outriggers that would have had the 
> stability to be on the ocean and would have been able to make to the
islands.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:42 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of 
> America
>
>
> yeah I got that part. What I was thinking about was which indigenous 
> peoples were around to get infected in the first place. Did the Inuit 
> go that far east? The Cree? Did they have boats capable of getting 
> there from the mainland? Just thinking out loud.
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons
> <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> Its on the island of Newfoundland. According to current theory it was 
>> more of an exploration base rather than the Viking settlement.
>> Moreover the climate then was warmer, very similar to what they were 
>> used to in Greenland and Iceland.
>>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Don't know. There's quite a bit of information here if anyone wants 
>> > to
>> read
>> > it -- don't have time to do more than skim today myself, tho I'm
>> interested
>> > in an academic way:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland
>> >
>> > An alternate theory is that there may not have been many Native 
>> > American settlements right there - L'Anse aux Meadows is not the 
>> > most hospitable place I'd guess, based on geography. And hmm, what
> people would that be?
>> > Inuit? Wouldn't you need more than a kayak to get there? On the 
>> > other
>> hand,
>> > the wiki article seems to be saying the Norse were visiting a 
>> > region a
>> lot
>> > bigger than that.
>> >
>> > It's an interesting question.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons 
>> ><larrycly...@gmail.com
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>
>> >> I was thinking that Greenland had regular contact with Norway and 
>> >> Denmark, not exactly the most isolated of areas. I would have 
>> >> expected that mainly after the settlement of the vinland theree 
>> >> would have been some outbreak.
>> >>
>> >> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> > no epidemics going on there at the time they left? Also, didn't 
>> >> > the
>> >> people
>> >> > who landed in Newfoundland and Quebec come from the Greenland
>> >> settlements?
>> >> > They would have been pretty isolated from disease vectors in 
>> >> > Europe
>> (?)
>> >> > Just thinking out loud -- I don't know any more about this than 
>> >> > I just
>> >> read.
>> >> >
>> >> > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
>> larrycly...@gmail.com
>> >> >wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >> I did a couple of archeological field schools in college. One 
>> >> >> was at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. I sincerely hope 
>> >> >> that the winters were mild there (they were not), because those 
>> >> >> huts were pretty miserable. While most of the six weeks were 
>> >> >> just scraping away as the dirt, I did find a couple of flint 
>> >> >> arrowheads at about the right
>> depth
>> >> >> for the time period. So at the very least there were locals 
>> >> >> near the Vikings campsite roughly around the same time as the 
>> >> >> Viking
> Sagas.
>> >> >>
>> >> >> One thing about that massive disease outbreak  after Spain 
>> >> >> started sending ships to the west, why didn't something similar 
>> >> >> happen when the Vikings came over?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Eric Roberts 
>> >> >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > You should go to Chillicothe Maureen... You can still hear 
>> >> >> > the
>> voices
>> >> >> > echoing...
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:32 PM
>> >> >> > To: cf-community
>> >> >> > Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding 
>> >> >> > of
>> >> America
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Eric Roberts 
>> >> >> > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>> >> >> >> Chillicothe, OH.  Other mounds in their culture include the 
>> >> >> >> mounds just east of St. Louis, MO in Cahokia, IL.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > I visited the Cahokia mounds about 15 years ago.  Beautiful 
>> >> >> > spot,
>> but
>> >> >> > spiritually dead.  When those folks left they took everything 
>> >> >> > with
>> >> them,
>> >> >> > even their power.
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > The Rock Eagle Mound in east Georgia, however, is still so 
>> >> >> > powerful
>> >> that
>> >> >> the
>> >> >> > air around it sings.  It would have been magical to attend 
>> >> >> > one of
>> the
>> >> >> > ceremonies there
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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