that may be Eric, but I never saw anything like that on my 2 year stay
in the eastern arctic.

On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 10:11 PM, Eric Roberts
<ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>
> The Eskimos had something that was like an outrigger.  I forget the term
> used for it offhand
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:larrycly...@gmail.com]
> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 7:16 PM
> To: cf-community
> Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of America
>
>
> Not sure about that Eric, I've been in umiaks and while they float I
> wouldn't want to have to paddle more than a few miles across open water in
> one of them.
>
> BTW wrong culture, outriggers are asian not inuit.
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 7:10 PM, Eric Roberts
> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>
>> Yes...the Inuit's go to the Atlantic coast and would have had capable
> craft.
>> The coastal tribes would have subsisted on marine mammals and would
>> have had boats, more than likely outriggers that would have had the
>> stability to be on the ocean and would have been able to make to the
> islands.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dana [mailto:dana.tier...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, May 27, 2012 4:42 PM
>> To: cf-community
>> Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding of
>> America
>>
>>
>> yeah I got that part. What I was thinking about was which indigenous
>> peoples were around to get infected in the first place. Did the Inuit
>> go that far east? The Cree? Did they have boats capable of getting
>> there from the mainland? Just thinking out loud.
>>
>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 2:34 PM, Larry C. Lyons
>> <larrycly...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> Its on the island of Newfoundland. According to current theory it was
>>> more of an exploration base rather than the Viking settlement.
>>> Moreover the climate then was warmer, very similar to what they were
>>> used to in Greenland and Iceland.
>>>
>>> On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Don't know. There's quite a bit of information here if anyone wants
>>> > to
>>> read
>>> > it -- don't have time to do more than skim today myself, tho I'm
>>> interested
>>> > in an academic way:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vinland
>>> >
>>> > An alternate theory is that there may not have been many Native
>>> > American settlements right there - L'Anse aux Meadows is not the
>>> > most hospitable place I'd guess, based on geography. And hmm, what
>> people would that be?
>>> > Inuit? Wouldn't you need more than a kayak to get there? On the
>>> > other
>>> hand,
>>> > the wiki article seems to be saying the Norse were visiting a
>>> > region a
>>> lot
>>> > bigger than that.
>>> >
>>> > It's an interesting question.
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Sun, May 27, 2012 at 8:14 AM, Larry C. Lyons
>>> ><larrycly...@gmail.com
>>> >wrote:
>>> >
>>> >>
>>> >> I was thinking that Greenland had regular contact with Norway and
>>> >> Denmark, not exactly the most isolated of areas. I would have
>>> >> expected that mainly after the settlement of the vinland theree
>>> >> would have been some outbreak.
>>> >>
>>> >> On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 2:16 PM, Dana <dana.tier...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> > no epidemics going on there at the time they left? Also, didn't
>>> >> > the
>>> >> people
>>> >> > who landed in Newfoundland and Quebec come from the Greenland
>>> >> settlements?
>>> >> > They would have been pretty isolated from disease vectors in
>>> >> > Europe
>>> (?)
>>> >> > Just thinking out loud -- I don't know any more about this than
>>> >> > I just
>>> >> read.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > On Sat, May 26, 2012 at 9:58 AM, Larry C. Lyons <
>>> larrycly...@gmail.com
>>> >> >wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> I did a couple of archeological field schools in college. One
>>> >> >> was at L'Anse aux Meadows in Newfoundland. I sincerely hope
>>> >> >> that the winters were mild there (they were not), because those
>>> >> >> huts were pretty miserable. While most of the six weeks were
>>> >> >> just scraping away as the dirt, I did find a couple of flint
>>> >> >> arrowheads at about the right
>>> depth
>>> >> >> for the time period. So at the very least there were locals
>>> >> >> near the Vikings campsite roughly around the same time as the
>>> >> >> Viking
>> Sagas.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> One thing about that massive disease outbreak  after Spain
>>> >> >> started sending ships to the west, why didn't something similar
>>> >> >> happen when the Vikings came over?
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 9:45 PM, Eric Roberts
>>> >> >> <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > You should go to Chillicothe Maureen... You can still hear
>>> >> >> > the
>>> voices
>>> >> >> > echoing...
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > -----Original Message-----
>>> >> >> > From: Maureen [mailto:mamamaur...@gmail.com]
>>> >> >> > Sent: Friday, May 25, 2012 7:32 PM
>>> >> >> > To: cf-community
>>> >> >> > Subject: Re: 6 Ridiculous Lies You Believe About the Founding
>>> >> >> > of
>>> >> America
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > On Fri, May 25, 2012 at 4:55 PM, Eric Roberts
>>> >> >> > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote:
>>> >> >> >> Chillicothe, OH.  Other mounds in their culture include the
>>> >> >> >> mounds just east of St. Louis, MO in Cahokia, IL.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > I visited the Cahokia mounds about 15 years ago.  Beautiful
>>> >> >> > spot,
>>> but
>>> >> >> > spiritually dead.  When those folks left they took everything
>>> >> >> > with
>>> >> them,
>>> >> >> > even their power.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > The Rock Eagle Mound in east Georgia, however, is still so
>>> >> >> > powerful
>>> >> that
>>> >> >> the
>>> >> >> > air around it sings.  It would have been magical to attend
>>> >> >> > one of
>>> the
>>> >> >> > ceremonies there
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >
>>> >> >
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>
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