Yeah, the military securing our northern and southern borders, not to mention establishing both wars and treaties with the native tribes, had nothing to do with their success. Or the establishment of homesteading rights. Or the legal framework for property disputes, prosecuting criminal acts, establishing a school system, etc. As someone whose family lived in the Oregon Territory before it became a state, I call B.S. My family came out here for a better life, to establish a homestead, educate their children, and hopefully flourish as all the infrastructure was built up. And they did.
Back then, they had a name for people that did it all by themselves: Dead. Judah On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:38 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yes, think gold strike and rail roads when those places weren't even really > part of this country, or were only territories. > > Even those that used public services prior to 1917 weren't spending other > American's money for the most part. That is the level of federal > government I want us to return to. > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 10:28 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> And all of those people did that without using any of the infrastructure or >> public education for their employees. >> >> On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 7:26 PM, LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> > >> > I disagree. >> > >> > A great many of the wealthy in this country come from family wealth built >> > before all of these things were prevalent. A great many wealthy got that >> > way through ideas they had themselves, and would have had without any of >> > those things. People have found and worked mines and all sorts of >> things. >> > >> > Also, we didn't pay for a lot of those things until 1917, before that the >> > government was small enough to be self sufficient. The social contract >> > didn't require that we extort our population. >> > >> > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 8:45 PM, Maureen <mamamaur...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > >> > > >> > > The original source of "you didn't build that". What, if any, of this >> do >> > > you disagree with? >> > > >> > > "There is nobody in this country who got rich on his own. *Nobody*. You >> > > built a factory out there? Good for you. But I want to be clear. You >> > moved >> > > your goods to market on the roads the rest of us paid for. You hired >> > > workers the rest of us paid to educate. You were safe in your factory >> > > because of police forces and fire forces that the rest of us paid >> for.... >> > > You built a factory and it turned into something terrific or a great >> > idea? >> > > God bless. Keep a big hunk of it. But part of the underlying social >> > > contract is you take a hunk of that and pay forward to the next kid who >> > > comes along." Elizabeth Warren >> > > >> > > On Tue, Oct 23, 2012 at 5:30 PM, Bruce Sorge <sor...@gmail.com> wrote: >> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > You didn't build that >> > > > > ************ >> > > > > It was a very true statement. None of the businesses were built >> on a >> > > > > deserted island. >> > > > > ************** >> > > > Yeah, Obama personally went to each and every business and helped >> them >> > > > build it. No, not really. Small businesses were started by hard >> working >> > > > people. Sure some had to borrow the money, but so what? The people >> who >> > > > built the business built it with their ideas, their business plan and >> > so >> > > on. >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:356542 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
