Now to the 10th amendment.

The framers had no problems distingushing between the state and federal
government throughout the constitution as they enumerated each ones place
and powers.

Just as the federal government cannot intrude into many local issues, so
the state cannot intrude into the specific powers of the fed.
On Nov 17, 2012 2:30 PM, "Gruss Gott" <grussg...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
> LRS Scout <lrssc...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > I've already told you that I'm not arguing from that point, there has
> been
> > tons of bad law, bad precedence.  To find the root of this argument we
> have
> > to look at what the founders intended, not politicians that perverted it
> > 100 and more years later.
> >
> > Also you once again completely ignored the supremacy clause.
> >
> > Not to mention you can go back and find the right to be armed ensconced
> in
> > English Common Law, which of course the Brits have ignored and done away
> > with mainly (only 1 clause of the magna carta remains in effect).
> >
>
> Cool, then we agree that the 2nd amendment has nothing whatsoever to
> say about local gun rights (something, btw, the Supreme Court has yet
> to rule on!!)
>
> I just don't know much about the SC and I'll have to read up, but
> given your level of erudition here for now I'll defer to you on the
> topic.
>
> Which is really my position on guns - I'm totally cool with them.  The
> only thing I would add is something more akin to Germany or
> Switzerland in that gun owners need formal training and licensing.
>
> ---------------
> Now, back to the Supreme Court ... since that's more fun to me :)
>
> You see their dilemma right?  A "conservative court" arguing for
> federal powers to squash state's rights?  And you know if they ruled
> for global federal power on this topic it would mean a justification
> for expansion of the federal government ...
>
> 

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