Actually,  no it isn't.  You can get married in a non-religious ceremony and
it is still called a marriage.  If you go to a judge/ship's captain/etc..
and get married, it is called a marriage.  Soto say that it is a religious
institutionis false.  Marriage is a civil/social construct.

Now as far as the state is concerned and from their part in issuing marriage
certificates...it has nothing to do with religion.  They don't care if you
are Christian, Muslim, atheist, Buddhist, Hindu, Wiccan, etc...they just
issue the certificate assuming you meet the legal criteria of age, consent,
you are not already married, etc...what a officiant does after that is of no
concern of the state other than whether or not the officiant meets the legal
criteria in that state.  Some states have ordination requirements and they
list the civil personnel that are authorized to perform marriages.  Some
states have less stringent requirements.  For instance, as a minister, when
I was in Louisiana, I had to be ordained by a recognized religious
institution and then I had to register with the parish clerk of courts in
the parish that I resided in (parishes are Louisiana's version of counties).
Here in IL, the only requirement was that the couple recognize me as clergy.

So obviously, if a non-religious person can perform a marriage ceremony,
that excludes it from being a religious institution and any claim as suck is
patently false.

As far as what a church can do with gay marriage, they are not forced to
perform gay marriages under any law that has been proposed.  I don't even
know of anyone that suggested that churches have to perform a gay marriage
if they don't want to.  If you are gay and your church will not perform you
wedding...I would suggest that you are attending the wrong church...

Eric

-----Original Message-----
From: Cameron Childress [mailto:[email protected]] 
Sent: Friday, March 29, 2013 9:16 AM
To: cf-community
Subject: Re: In case your gal didn't get enough bacon...


On Fri, Mar 29, 2013 at 10:02 AM, Casey Dougall - Uber Website Solutions <
[email protected]> wrote:

> civil union and domestic partnerships don't mean the same thing as 
> marriage. Take the government out of the picture and it would just be 
> that you are married or you live with someone you love.


Marriage really is a religious institution, and from that perspective I
continue to say that if a particular church doesn't want to marry gay
people, they don't have to. That's fine by me.

But marriage isn't "only" a religious institution. It's also a civil and
governmentally recognized label with a very specific legal meaning. From
that standpoint, there really should be equality.

-Cameron

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