Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence. I don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like she was able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse what he did...both should have assault charges filed. Unless it can be shown that she was purely defending herself...that is the standard that police use. If both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to sort it out.
-----Original Message----- From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Ray Rice Days... On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > > http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does-no > t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/ > > -----Original Message----- > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: Re: Ray Rice > > > No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop > inferring from my remarks. > > I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I > would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a > stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the stranger would be shot. > For > instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. > I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting someone. > She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow her > to kill me? > > But, concerning dressing provocatively: didn't you say you have > daughters, Scott? > Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, > why not? > > > On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked his > fiance > > unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way. > > > > As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one of > > proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend > > himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being assaulted, > > and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to respond how he sees fit, right? > > > > I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying 'she > > was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened and in > > the process condoning his actions. Just like when people say, 'look > > at how > she > > was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped. > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth > > <r...@whitestonemedia.com > > > > wrote: > > > >> No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow a > >> man > the > >> right to rape her. > >> > >> However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to > >> defend himself. > >> > >> In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her to > >> defend herself. > >> > >> > >> On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth < > >> r...@whitestonemedia.com> > >>> wrote: > >>> > >>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble." > >>>> > >>> When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed > >>> provocatively? > >>> > >> > >> > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372277 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
