I didn't see that part. I just saw the initial video. I am not a sports fan, so I didn't look much after that. There is probably more that we didn't see on the video since they dropped the charges against her.
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Stroz [mailto:boyz...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 7:47 PM To: cf-community Subject: RE: Ray Rice Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later dropped. He was then charged with aggravated assault. I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you guys think they were also 'looking for trouble'? On Sep 9, 2014 8:13 PM, "Eric Roberts" <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> wrote: > > Personally I think they should both be castigated for using violence. > I don't know if I would necessarily call her a victim...she looks like > she was able to beat the crap out of him in return...not to excuse > what he did...both should have assault charges filed. Unless it can > be shown that she was purely defending herself...that is the standard > that police use. > If > both parties are hitting each other...both parties get arrested to > sort it out. > > -----Original Message----- > From: LRS Scout [mailto:lrssc...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 6:35 PM > To: cf-community > Subject: RE: Ray Rice > > > Days... > On Sep 9, 2014 7:33 PM, "Eric Roberts" > <ow...@threeravensconsulting.com> > wrote: > > > > > > > http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/09/09/nfl-commissioner-goodell-does- > > no t-rule -out-ray-rice-return-to-football-he-has-paid-the-price/ > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Rick Faircloth [mailto:r...@whitestonemedia.com] > > Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2014 5:55 PM > > To: cf-community > > Subject: Re: Ray Rice > > > > > > No, Scott, I'm not saying that. I said only what I said. Stop > > inferring from my remarks. > > > > I said a man has a right to defend himself if attacked by a woman. I > > would not even hit my wife if she were to slap me. However, if a > > stranger, even a woman, appeared to me to be a mortal threat, the > stranger > would be shot. > > For > > instance, if she came at me with a knife or a gun, she would be shot. > > I'm not going to take the chance of getting killed to avoid shooting > someone. > > She attacked and provoked a response. What should I do? Just allow > > her to kill me? > > > > But, concerning dressing provocatively: didn't you say you have > > daughters, Scott? > > Do you want them to go out in public dressed provocatively? If not, > > why not? > > > > > > On 9/9/2014 4:08 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > > Are you saying Ray Rice was 'defending' himself when he knocked > > > his > > fiance > > > unconscious? Because..it sure does seem that way. > > > > > > As has been pointed out in the thread, the issue for most is one > > > of proportional response. Would you feel he had a right to defend > > > himself by shooting her? According to you , he was being > > > assaulted, and, following your 'logic' he should be bale to > > > respond how he sees > fit, right? > > > > > > I know you cannot see it (or refuse to admit it), but by saying > > > 'she was asking for trouble' you are blaming her for what happened > > > and in the process condoning his actions. Just like when people > > > say, 'look at how > > she > > > was dressed..she was asking for trouble' after a woman gets raped. > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 3:31 PM, Rick Faircloth > > > <r...@whitestonemedia.com > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > >> No, because a woman's right to dress provocatively does not allow > > >> a man > > the > > >> right to rape her. > > >> > > >> However, a woman's assault on a man does allow a man the right to > > >> defend himself. > > >> > > >> In the same way, a man's sexual assault of a woman entitles her > > >> to defend herself. > > >> > > >> > > >> On 9/9/2014 3:10 PM, Scott Stroz wrote: > > >>> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 12:55 PM, Rick Faircloth < > > >> r...@whitestonemedia.com> > > >>> wrote: > > >>> > > >>>> No, asshole, it reeks of "she was asking for trouble." > > >>>> > > >>> When a woman is raped would you say the same if she was dressed > > >>> provocatively? > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372295 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
