I don't think any of us can make draw any conclusions without complete 
knowledge
of their long-term past relationship and this recent revelation. We 
can't know whether
this is just a drunken, crazed moment for them both, or whether there 
more to it.

Maybe the woman is suffering from "Stockholm Syndrome."  It's also 
possible that
she's just someone for whom this wasn't a big deal. Perhaps they beat on 
each other
for awhile then enjoy the "makeup sex" that ensues.  I know that sounds 
crazy, but
there are all different types of people in this world.  It's hard to 
judge people's lives
when I don't walk in their shoes in circumstances like these. As odd as 
it seems,
the fiance apparently got over the event.

Like has been expressed previous on this forum, I just hate to know that 
their lives
have been destroyed when, apparently, they had gotten past the incident 
and moved
on. Now the video shows up and all hell breaks loose for them. What 
they've built
together since now is in ruins.

TMZ should be held liable for using this video for their own enrichment, 
without
regard for the consequences concerning the lives TMZ, themselves, abuse for
their own gain.

It's just a difficult situation to understand and even more difficult to 
discuss
from the outside looking in.


On 9/10/2014 8:39 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
> If this is indeed accurate (he allegedly spat on her..twice...before the
> altercation), will it change your position that she was 'looking for
> trouble'?
>
> http://espn.go.com/espn/otl/story/_/id/11503496/ray-rice-spat-face-fiancee-twice-punch-lines-reports
>
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 11:13 PM, Rick Faircloth <r...@whitestonemedia.com>
> wrote:
>
>> They *both* were victims of assault.
>>
>> If the woman had assaulted a smaller, weaker woman like she did Ray
>> Rice, and did the
>> same amount of physical damage to the smaller, weaker woman, should she
>> be charged with assault?
>>
>> Of course she should.
>>
>> The both did things that were wrong.
>>
>>
>> On 9/9/2014 9:11 PM, Scott Stroz wrote:
>>> I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am giving
>> you
>>> to much credit.
>>>
>>> I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick would
>>> ever consider.
>>>
>>> To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this whole thread
>>> started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I am
>>> flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on Facebook. It
>> just
>>> does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years -
>>> apparently, I am not the only one.
>>>
>>> I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to deserve being
>>> punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never in
>> danger.
>>> His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting him as the
>>> victim?
>>>    On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child?
>>>> Do you think women are like little kids unable to take responsibility
>> for
>>>> their actions, and know right from wrong?
>>>>
>>>> Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything,
>>>> it means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to prosecute, and
>> they
>>>> had a stronger case against him.
>>>>
>>>> On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later
>> dropped.
>>>>> He was then charged with aggravated assault.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you guys
>>>> think
>>>>> they were also 'looking for trouble'?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
> 

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