You're absolute right, Scott. Actions have consequences. EVERYONE'S action have consequences. Even a woman's actions can have consequences. Typical "women are never at fault for anything and men are the cause of all trouble in the world" feminism.
I'll bet that if his soon-to-be wife hadn't assaulted him, he never would have struck back. That's a safe bet that I'll take. On 9/10/2014 12:03 AM, Scott Stroz wrote: > I would say that he caused the problem the moment he decided that punching > his soon-to-be wife in the face was the best way to respond to the > situation. > > There is no one else to blame but him. He threw the punch - no one else. > > Actions have consequences, it is about time some of these professional > athletes realize that. > > On Tue, Sep 9, 2014 at 10:42 PM, Vivec <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Scott, let's say your omniscience is wrong. >> >> And a month or two, or more from now it comes out that they were a couple >> that had problems, >> but there was no ongoing domestic abuse. They were working things out, and >> then this came along and ruined everything for them. >> >> What would you say then? >> >> On 9 September 2014 22:13, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> The media did not destroy a family... Ray Rice did, the moment he decided >>> the best course of action to resolve the situation was to punch his >>> soon-to-be wife in the face. >>> >>> I mentioned on Facebook, she is practically a textbook case of someone >> who >>> is abused. Letting them 'sort out their problems' may result in her death >>> (or his if she decides she is tired of being abused). The biggest red >> flag >>> is that she has blamed every one, including herself, except for the >> person >>> who the the punch. >>> >>> Do yourself a favor and go on Twitter and search for #WhyIStayed to get a >>> glimpse of what some victims of abuse go through and what their state of >>> mind is/was. >>> On Sep 9, 2014 9:32 PM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I know what you meant. >>>> But the comparison .... you can't make a comparison like that. >>>> >>>> And I don't see anything wrong with my view that >>>> A) his actions were disproportionate >>>> B) It was an altercation between two adults >>>> C) they were both to blame for what happened. >>>> D) The "intervention" of the media did nothing to help the couple or >>> their >>>> situation >>>> E) Since February there has not been any other reports of domestic >>> violence >>>> at all. >>>> F) There is just not enough evidence at all to say that in that >> couple's >>>> relationship there was a history of violence on either side. >>>> >>>> They were in a Casino, she was stumbling to the elevator, they were >>>> probably both very drunk. >>>> This isn't an excuse for either of them, but the entire situation needs >>> to >>>> be viewed objectively. >>>> Remove the "knockout" , what are you left with? >>>> >>>> If she's fine, she didn't seek help, they got married...nothing >> happened >>>> from February to now... >>>> leave the people alone let them sort out their problems and live their >>>> life. >>>> >>>> She is not a little child that needs the world and adults that know >>> better >>>> to look after her. >>>> >>>> What the media has done is effectively destroyed a family. They haven't >>>> helped her, and they haven't helped him. >>>> They have destroyed a family. >>>> >>>> Hey, you know what? Maybe in a month more information will come out and >>> we >>>> will find out that it was a horrible abusive relationship. >>>> Some cousin or uncle or friend will come out and say , yeah, he was >>> always >>>> hitting her. Or she was always cussing and hitting him. >>>> >>>> But as of right now? That's not the case. >>>> >>>> On 9 September 2014 21:11, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> I am not, and I feel safe in assuming you know that - maybe I am >> giving >>>> you >>>>> to much credit. >>>>> >>>>> I am trying to see if disproportionate response is something Rick >> would >>>>> ever consider. >>>>> >>>>> To be honest, I had very little respect for Rick before this whole >>> thread >>>>> started, and his response do not really surprise me. But, Gel, I am >>>>> flabbergasted by some of your comments - both here and on Facebook. >> It >>>> just >>>>> does not jive with the impression I have gotten over the years - >>>>> apparently, I am not the only one. >>>>> >>>>> I will say this one more time. There is NOTHING she did to deserve >>> being >>>>> punched in the face and knocked unconscious. His life was never in >>>> danger. >>>>> His response was way over the top. Can we please stop painting him as >>> the >>>>> victim? >>>>> On Sep 9, 2014 9:00 PM, "Vivec" <gel21...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> You are comparing an adult woman to a 12 year old child? >>>>>> Do you think women are like little kids unable to take >> responsibility >>>> for >>>>>> their actions, and know right from wrong? >>>>>> >>>>>> Dropping the charges doesn't mean that she didn't do anything, >>>>>> it means that the lawyers decided it wasn't worth it to prosecute, >>> and >>>>> they >>>>>> had a stronger case against him. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 9 September 2014 20:47, Scott Stroz <boyz...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Both initially were charged with assault. Her charges were later >>>>> dropped. >>>>>>> He was then charged with aggravated assault. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I wonder, if this was a 12 year old child who he hit, would you >>> guys >>>>>> think >>>>>>> they were also 'looking for trouble'? >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Order the Adobe Coldfusion Anthology now! http://www.amazon.com/Adobe-Coldfusion-Anthology/dp/1430272155/?tag=houseoffusion Archive: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/message.cfm/messageid:372324 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/subscribe.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/groups/cf-community/unsubscribe.cfm
