i was in school less then 10 years ago and i can say those who wanted to
learn did learn and those who had other priorties
too bad they didnt learn. Learning is about being disciplined enough to want
to learn, ok ok :) at least enough to know you need to try to learn even
though it sucks :).





Bill Wheatley
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon Hall" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 02, 2002 3:04 PM
Subject: Re: Bow to me. Bow to each other. At the ready ...


> ----- Original Message -----
> > Really, and if there isn't a choice between private schools. For example
> the
> > vast majority of the private schools receiving vouchers in Cleveland
were
> > religious institutions. To me that still violates the establishment
> clause.
> > Additionally secular private schools charge far above what the vouchers
> pay
> > for. The rest have to come out of the parents pockets. Some choice. So
far
> > the program seems to be an attempt to publicly subsidize private
religious
> > education.
>
> I say let the parents decide where to send their kids. If they think
> religion is more important to their kids future career than some other
> discipline, let them reap what they sow.
>
>
> > Secondly, if private schools were to operate under the exact same rules
as
> > the public schools do, or at the very least in terms of accepting all
> > children regardless of handicap etc. then their performance would be
very
> > close to public schools. for instance I did an analysis in grad school
of
> > differences between public and private schools in term of academic
> > performance on the NORC data. When controlling for parental involvement,
> all
> > differences between public and private schools disappeared in terms of
> > academic achievement. In other words it is other factors rather than the
> > myth that private schools are intrinsically better that account for
> improved
> > school performance.
>
> That just it! They do not have to operate under the same exact rules. They
> can even impose entrance tests to keep out the morons.
>
> > As for the system being broken, that's another myth that's been foisted
on
> > the public by politicians. While the US in not at the top in k-12, it is
> > certainly not at the bottom, (those countries without a public school
> system
> > seem to be over represented at the bottom of the list). Moreover this
> > country has made some very notable improvements over the last 20 years.
>
>  When was the last time you were in a high school? It wasn't too long ago
> that I was a high school student, and I can tell you, very little actual
> learning goes on in school these days.
>
> jon
>
> 
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