:) i dont think i want to look my list for people who need a bullet in the
head is already too long

ok ok maybe not a bullet but a few wacks with a ballpeen hammer!

Bill Wheatley
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Wayne Putterill" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:44 AM
Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh


> This is a good page to show to Christian extremists like that:
>
> http://www.ffrf.org/nontracts/jesus.html
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Bill Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: 09 July 2002 15:34
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
>
>
> :) reminds me of the time i was in Manhattan kansas on my way to see a
> Kstate game and this preacher (Forget his name) he is/was a big time guy
> out their in the state and area, and he had a sign that said
>
> GOD IS GOING TO KILL ALL GAY PEOPLE.
> GOD HATES GAYS.
>
> Now that is great, a man that is a preacher and is suppose to know about
> that and he goes out and has that sign. ANd me saying ot myself hrm god
> loves everyone so how does this moron get off spewing hate like that.
> Much less, hes a preacher so how the hell can he have so much hate
> inside lol
>
> Oh well life is full of things that make you go HUH!
>
> Bill Wheatley
> Senior Database Developer
> Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer
> EDIETS.COM
> 954.360.9022 X159
> ICQ 417645
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Haggerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:24 AM
> Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
>
>
> > The number of articles being cited should not be germane to the
> > argument, the source of the articles and the qualifications of the
> > writers should.
> >
> > There is a movement amongst geneticists, neuropathologists, and other
> > scientists concerned with the 'mechanics' of thought to treat
> homosexuality
> > as a human condition brought on by a number of biological factors, and
> there
> > is a large body of work concerned with the relationship between in
> > vitro hormonal levels and later homosexuality. A site with a number of
>
> > good articles is Nature www.nature.com, which has covered the topic in
>
> > depth
> over
> > the past few years.
> >
> > The other side of argument is that this is a behavior people choose to
>
> > engage in and is predominently a 'learned' activity. The proponents of
> this
> > argument, in my experience, tend to be religious leaders, politicians,
>
> > guidance counsellors, and the like. The 700 club's Web site has an
> > equally broad range of articles on the subject.
> >
> > Neither camp has been able to prove their point exhaustively, and
> therefore
> > the truth remains open to interpretation. Choose your King.
> >
> > I, for one, always go back to the book of John in these arguments, and
>
> > to Jesus' admonition of the mob about to stone the adultress: 'Let he
> > who is without sin cast the first stone'. It is not my business who is
>
> > gay, nor
> do
> > I care about the roots of homosexuality. The problem is, being
> > homosexual
> is
> > so laden with guilt and societal displeasure that people who should
> > know better often act out against homosexuals unjustly. I need not
> > point out
> the
> > multitude of examples of violence against homosexuals to make my
> > point. Injustice is something I find threatening, and, if someone
> > wants to march
> to
> > promote their way of life so maybe others will understand and stop
> > beating their heads in, I cannot oppose their desire to do so.
> >
> > M
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:54 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> >
> >
> > And I am sure, as I will do at lunch, that I can find just as many
> > articles proving yours wrong.  We'll see.  I'll take a look at what
> > you sent.  Examine it and let you know what I think.
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:52 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> >
> > Enough supporting evidence or do you want more? I changed the search
> > terms somewhat to eliminate AIDS and HIV, and eliminate letters to the
>
> > editor and
> > reviews. The search terms were also changed to be somewhat more
> > inclusive.
> > 684 article were found.
> >
> > So what more evidence do you want?
> >
> > I think that I demonstrated my point. The evidence supporting the
> > biological basis of male homosexuality is overwheming on the genetic
> > studies alone. The
> > quality of the research is adequate.
> >
> > Now as you were saying.
> >
> > larry
> >
> > --
> > Larry C. Lyons
> > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > EBStor.com
> > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > --
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:21 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > >
> > >
> > > Ahh, but you are quick to ask for someone elses numbers when they
> > > make an unproven statement.  You are asking me to prove your point.
>
> > > That's not laziness it's calling you and you can't prove what you
> > > said.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:19 AM
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > >
> > > I am not going to do your work for you. Go to grateful med and look
> > > up the research yourself. I do not contribute to another's laziness.
> > >
> > > --
> > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > EBStor.com
> > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > --
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:14 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Show me your numbers Larry.  I have heard arguments both
> > > ways, but was
> > > > unaware there was a consensus.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:51 AM
> > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > > >
> > > > Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is biologically
>
> > > > based, I take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against
> > > > people based on
> > > > factors that they cannot control.
> > > >
> > > > Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's and
> > > early 60's
> > > > was
> > > > all about?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Larry C. Lyons
> > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer
> > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
> > > > EBStor.com
> > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204
> > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795
> > > > tel:   (703) 393-7930
> > > > fax:   (703) 393-2659
> > > > Web:   http://www.ebstor.com
> > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done.
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is my take on Homosexuality.  What you do in the
> > > > privacy of your
> > > > > own home is your business.  I support equal rights for gay
> > > > > people, they are people, they don't however, deserve special
> > > > > rights.
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM
> > > > > To: CF-Community
> > > > > Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh
> > > > >
> > > > > The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362
> > > > > admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God
> > > > > doesn't love heterosexuals.
> > > > > It's just that they need more supervision.     ~Lynn Lavner
> > > > >
> > > > >  If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to
> > > > > work: "Hello.
> > > > >  Can't work today, still queer."    ~Robin Tyler
> > > > >
> > > > >  I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you
> > > > don't have
> > > > > to
> > > > > tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980
> > > > >
> > > > >  War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess which
> > > > > one the
> > > > > Southern Baptist Convention is protesting?    ~The Value
> > > of Families
> > > > >
> > > > >  Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating
>
> > > > > themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in
> > > Congress. If it
> > > > > passes,
> > > > > they  won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be
> > > > > illegal for a
> > > > > prick to touch an asshole.         ~Judy Carter
> > > > >
> > > > >  'You could move.'    ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in
> > > > > response to a
> > > > > reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across the
>
> > > > > street and
> > > > > wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the
> > > > > neighborhood.
> > > > >
> > > > >  The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the
> > > > military is that
> > > > > the
> > > > > next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare
> > > > > homosexuality
> > > > > instead of running off to Canada.   ~Lorne Bloch
> > > > >
> > > > >  Why can't they have gay people in the army?  Personally, I
> > > > think they
> > > > > are
> > > > > just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call
> > > > > a faggot?" ~ Jon Stewart
> > > > >
> > > > >  My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity.  All those
> > > women out
> > > > > there
> > > > > praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share.
> > > > ~Rita Mae Brown
> > > > >
> > > > >  Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture,
> > > > torture or death
> > > > > say
> > > > > they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as
>
> > > > > soldiers; we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor,
> > > > > The Advocate
> > > > >
> > > > >  You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you
> > > > just have to
> > > > > be
> > > > > able to shoot straight.   ~Barry Goldwater
> > > > >
> > > > >  Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable
> > > > seeing two men
> > > > > holding guns than holding hands?      ~Ernest Gaines
> > > > >
> > > > >  My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual
> > > > life, if it
> > > > > were
> > > > > broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise
> > > > and horror.
> > > > > ~W. Somerset Maugham
> > > > >
> > > > >  Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't.
> ~Author
> > > > > Unknown
> > > > >
> > > > >  If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female homosexuals
> > > > > should be
> > > > > called "ecstatic."    ~Shelly Roberts
> > > > >
> > > > >  My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen
> > > because she
> > > > > thought
> > > > > I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it.
> > > > >   ~Amanda
> > > > > Bearse
> > > > >
> > > > >  Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when their
> > > > mouth is full
> > > > > of
> > > > > one.    ~Kate Clinton
> > > > >
> > > > >  No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you
> > > still have a
> > > > > next
> > > > > step.      ~Author Unknown
> > > > >
> > > > >  It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of
> > > > > homosexuality.
> > > > > It's like disapproving of rain.      ~Francis Maude
> > > > >
> > > > >  The only queer people are those who don't love anybody.
> > > >  ~Rita Mae
> > > > > Brown
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
>
> 
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