Fred Phelps... What a waste of skin that guy is.
will ---- William H. Bowen Webmaster ALSTOM Energy Automation & Information "Your friendly neighborhood Webmaster" [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.esca.com/ 425.739.3629 Voice 425.466.7016 Cell 425.739.3690 FAX ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Wheatley" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:33 AM Subject: Re: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > :) reminds me of the time i was in Manhattan kansas on my way to see a > Kstate game and this > preacher (Forget his name) he is/was a big time guy out their in the state > and area, and he had a sign that said > > GOD IS GOING TO KILL ALL GAY PEOPLE. > GOD HATES GAYS. > > Now that is great, a man that is a preacher and is suppose to know about > that and he goes out and has that sign. > ANd me saying ot myself hrm god loves everyone so how does this moron get > off spewing hate like that. Much less, hes a preacher so how the hell can he > have so much hate inside lol > > Oh well life is full of things that make you go HUH! > > Bill Wheatley > Senior Database Developer > Macromedia Certified Advanced Coldfusion Developer > EDIETS.COM > 954.360.9022 X159 > ICQ 417645 > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Michael Haggerty" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 10:24 AM > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > The number of articles being cited should not be germane to the argument, > > the source of the articles and the qualifications of the writers should. > > > > There is a movement amongst geneticists, neuropathologists, and other > > scientists concerned with the 'mechanics' of thought to treat > homosexuality > > as a human condition brought on by a number of biological factors, and > there > > is a large body of work concerned with the relationship between in vitro > > hormonal levels and later homosexuality. A site with a number of good > > articles is Nature www.nature.com, which has covered the topic in depth > over > > the past few years. > > > > The other side of argument is that this is a behavior people choose to > > engage in and is predominently a 'learned' activity. The proponents of > this > > argument, in my experience, tend to be religious leaders, politicians, > > guidance counsellors, and the like. The 700 club's Web site has an equally > > broad range of articles on the subject. > > > > Neither camp has been able to prove their point exhaustively, and > therefore > > the truth remains open to interpretation. Choose your King. > > > > I, for one, always go back to the book of John in these arguments, and to > > Jesus' admonition of the mob about to stone the adultress: 'Let he who is > > without sin cast the first stone'. It is not my business who is gay, nor > do > > I care about the roots of homosexuality. The problem is, being homosexual > is > > so laden with guilt and societal displeasure that people who should know > > better often act out against homosexuals unjustly. I need not point out > the > > multitude of examples of violence against homosexuals to make my point. > > Injustice is something I find threatening, and, if someone wants to march > to > > promote their way of life so maybe others will understand and stop beating > > their heads in, I cannot oppose their desire to do so. > > > > M > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:54 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > And I am sure, as I will do at lunch, that I can find just as many > > articles proving yours wrong. We'll see. I'll take a look at what you > > sent. Examine it and let you know what I think. > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:52 AM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > Enough supporting evidence or do you want more? I changed the search > > terms > > somewhat to eliminate AIDS and HIV, and eliminate letters to the editor > > and > > reviews. The search terms were also changed to be somewhat more > > inclusive. > > 684 article were found. > > > > So what more evidence do you want? > > > > I think that I demonstrated my point. The evidence supporting the > > biological > > basis of male homosexuality is overwheming on the genetic studies alone. > > The > > quality of the research is adequate. > > > > Now as you were saying. > > > > larry > > > > -- > > Larry C. Lyons > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > EBStor.com > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > -- > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:21 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > Ahh, but you are quick to ask for someone elses numbers when they make > > > an unproven statement. You are asking me to prove your point. That's > > > not laziness it's calling you and you can't prove what you said. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 8:19 AM > > > To: CF-Community > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > I am not going to do your work for you. Go to grateful med and look up > > > the > > > research yourself. I do not contribute to another's laziness. > > > > > > -- > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > EBStor.com > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > -- > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 9:14 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > Show me your numbers Larry. I have heard arguments both > > > ways, but was > > > > unaware there was a consensus. > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 09, 2002 7:51 AM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > Given that the consensus now is that homosexuality is biologically > > > > based, I > > > > take it that you consider it ok to discriminate against > > > > people based on > > > > factors that they cannot control. > > > > > > > > Isn't that what the civil rights stuff in the late 50's and > > > early 60's > > > > was > > > > all about? > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Larry C. Lyons > > > > ColdFusion/Web Developer > > > > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > > > EBStor.com > > > > 8870 Rixlew Lane, Suite 204 > > > > Manassas, Virginia 20109-3795 > > > > tel: (703) 393-7930 > > > > fax: (703) 393-2659 > > > > Web: http://www.ebstor.com > > > > email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Chaos, panic, and disorder - my work here is done. > > > > -- > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Kevin Schmidt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 5:00 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: RE: Super Duper Controversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Here is my take on Homosexuality. What you do in the > > > > privacy of your > > > > > own home is your business. I support equal rights for gay > > > > > people, they > > > > > are people, they don't however, deserve special rights. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Beth F [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > > > > Sent: Monday, July 08, 2002 3:59 PM > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > Subject: Super Duper Contraversial post....heheh > > > > > > > > > > The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 > > > > > admonishments > > > > > to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love > > > > > heterosexuals. > > > > > It's just that they need more supervision. ~Lynn Lavner > > > > > > > > > > If homosexuality is a disease, let's all call in queer to > > > > > work: "Hello. > > > > > Can't work today, still queer." ~Robin Tyler > > > > > > > > > > I'd rather be black than gay because when you're black you > > > > don't have > > > > > to > > > > > tell your mother. ~Charles Pierce, 1980 > > > > > > > > > > War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess > > > > > which one the > > > > > Southern Baptist Convention is protesting? ~The Value > > > of Families > > > > > > > > > > Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating > > > > > themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in > > > Congress. If it > > > > > passes, > > > > > they won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be > > > > > illegal for > > > > > a > > > > > prick to touch an asshole. ~Judy Carter > > > > > > > > > > 'You could move.' ~Abigail Van Buren, "Dear Abby," in > > > > > response to a > > > > > reader who complained that a gay couple was moving in across > > > > > the street > > > > > and > > > > > wanted to know what he could do to improve the quality of the > > > > > neighborhood. > > > > > > > > > > The one bonus of not lifting the ban on gays in the > > > > military is that > > > > > the > > > > > next time the government mandates a draft we can all declare > > > > > homosexuality > > > > > instead of running off to Canada. ~Lorne Bloch > > > > > > > > > > Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I > > > > think they > > > > > are > > > > > just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a > > > > > faggot?" > > > > > ~ Jon Stewart > > > > > > > > > > My lesbianism is an act of Christian charity. All those > > > women out > > > > > there > > > > > praying for a man, and I'm giving them my share. > > > > ~Rita Mae Brown > > > > > > > > > > Soldiers who are not afraid of guns, bombs, capture, > > > > torture or death > > > > > say > > > > > they are afraid of homosexuals. Clearly we should not be used as > > > > > soldiers; > > > > > we should be used as weapons. ~Letter to the Editor, The Advocate > > > > > > > > > > You don't have to be straight to be in the military; you > > > > just have to > > > > > be > > > > > able to shoot straight. ~Barry Goldwater > > > > > > > > > > Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable > > > > seeing two men > > > > > holding guns than holding hands? ~Ernest Gaines > > > > > > > > > > My own belief is that there is hardly anyone whose sexual > > > > life, if it > > > > > were > > > > > broadcast, would not fill the world at large with surprise > > > > and horror. > > > > > ~W. Somerset Maugham > > > > > > > > > > Drag is when a man wears everything a lesbian won't. ~Author > > > > > Unknown > > > > > > > > > > If male homosexuals are called "gay," then female > > > > > homosexuals should be > > > > > called "ecstatic." ~Shelly Roberts > > > > > > > > > > My mother took me to a psychiatrist when I was fifteen > > > because she > > > > > thought > > > > > I was a latent homosexual. There was nothing latent about it. > > > > > ~Amanda > > > > > Bearse > > > > > > > > > > Some women can't say the word lesbian...even when their > > > > mouth is full > > > > > of > > > > > one. ~Kate Clinton > > > > > > > > > > No matter how far in or out of the closet you are, you > > > still have a > > > > > next > > > > > step. ~Author Unknown > > > > > > > > > > It always seemed to me a bit pointless to disapprove of > > > > > homosexuality. > > > > > It's like disapproving of rain. ~Francis Maude > > > > > > > > > > The only queer people are those who don't love anybody. > > > > ~Rita Mae > > > > > Brown > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ______________________________________________________________________ This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. 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