Larry,

There is a big difference.  The murder rate among blacks is 7X higher than
among whites.  (from the DOJ)  That is a significant difference.


----- Original Message -----
From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Saturday, November 16, 2002 9:45 AM
Subject: RE: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow


> So what are you saying that there is something intrinsically different if
> there is a black population? Or that Winnipeg is not as diverse, if not
more
> so. If you're trying to argue that then you are being woefully ignorant of
> both Winnipeg or Minneapolis.
>
> As of economies, yes there are very much the same. A mix of mining farming
> and manufacturing with a significant portion of service oriented
industries.
>
>
> The point remains the same, when you hold all other factors constant, the
> only factors that explain a significant portion of homicide rates are the
> differences in gun control.
>
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:54 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: RE: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow
> >
> >
> >   Not the same economy. Not the same demographics. You can
> > not compare these
> > cities. One example. Minneapolis has a black population of
> > 18%. In Winnipeg,
> > it's 0.4%.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:26 PM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow
> >
> >
> > I've posted the data before, so I'm not going to do it again,
> > if you want
> > you can use the archives to dig it up with the supporting evidence.
> >
> > consider the cities of Winnipeg and Minneapolis St. Paul.
> > Same economy,
> > demographics etc. Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, has very strict
> > gun control
> > laws, in 1995 there were 2 homicide, out of 11 total that were firearm
> > related. Minneapolis-St Paul had 19 firearm related
> > homicides. the data is
> > the same for vancouver, bc and Seatle WA, Toronto On and
> > Chicago, I could go
> > on. The point being is that you can match these locations (in
> > Canada and the
> > US) on most different socio-economic factors, the difference
> > in homicide
> > rates for firearms is very plain, Canada has far less
> > homicides by firearms
> > than would be expected if gun control legislation did not work.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
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