So what are you saying that there is something intrinsically different if
there is a black population? Or that Winnipeg is not as diverse, if not more
so. If you're trying to argue that then you are being woefully ignorant of
both Winnipeg or Minneapolis.

As of economies, yes there are very much the same. A mix of mining farming
and manufacturing with a significant portion of service oriented industries.


The point remains the same, when you hold all other factors constant, the
only factors that explain a significant portion of homicide rates are the
differences in gun control. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lon Lentz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 7:54 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: RE: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow
> 
> 
>   Not the same economy. Not the same demographics. You can 
> not compare these
> cities. One example. Minneapolis has a black population of 
> 18%. In Winnipeg,
> it's 0.4%.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Larry Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, November 15, 2002 6:26 PM
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Gun Company Must Pay Teacher's Widow
> 
> 
> I've posted the data before, so I'm not going to do it again, 
> if you want
> you can use the archives to dig it up with the supporting evidence.
> 
> consider the cities of Winnipeg and Minneapolis St. Paul. 
> Same economy,
> demographics etc. Winnipeg Manitoba Canada, has very strict 
> gun control
> laws, in 1995 there were 2 homicide, out of 11 total that were firearm
> related. Minneapolis-St Paul had 19 firearm related 
> homicides. the data is
> the same for vancouver, bc and Seatle WA, Toronto On and 
> Chicago, I could go
> on. The point being is that you can match these locations (in 
> Canada and the
> US) on most different socio-economic factors, the difference 
> in homicide
> rates for firearms is very plain, Canada has far less 
> homicides by firearms
> than would be expected if gun control legislation did not work.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
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