Hey man, I lived there. Your government works no better than ours. The "native" issues, health care issues, Quebecois. You guys still have your share of problems. You know it's true, or you would have no reason to be here.
Tim -----Original Message----- From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, November 25, 2002 9:46 AM To: CF-Community Subject: RE: Moron? Only in the US. In Canada the government works, mostly. larry At 07:38 AM 11/25/02 -0500, you wrote: > >> its a non-partisan, non-political government committee > >Doesn't that violate the laws of physics? > >Tim > >-----Original Message----- >From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 10:47 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: Moron? > > >Kevin, > >The electoral system in Canada is out of the hands of the political >parties, and subject to a crown commission. You don't have an >analogy or similar governmental mechanism in the US so its kind of >hard to explain, except to say that its a non-partisan, non-political >government committee that decides on the boundaries for the various >representative districts, enumerates the voters within those >districts and runs the polling places for the elections that take >place 6 weeks after the governor general dissolves parliament. In >other words its a very different system from the US. > >larry > > >So much for the 2 party system ehh... > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Eric Dawson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 9:10 PM > >Subject: Re: Moron? > > > > > >> > >http://www.elections.ca/content.asp?section=pol&document=index&dir=par&lang= > >e&textonly=false > >> > >> Standing Parties in the House of Commons > >> Liberal > >> Canadian Alliance > >> Bloc QuEbEcois > >> N.D.P. > >> Progressive Conservative > >> > >> What is a political party? > >> > >> The Act does not attempt to define or describe a political party. > >Generally > >> speaking, a political party is a group of people who together establish a > >> constitution, elect a leader and other officers, and endorse candidates > >for > >> election to the House of Commons. > >> > >> The Act uses the following terms: > >> > >> eligible party: a party that has applied for registration under the Act, > >but > >> has yet to fulfill some of the conditions to become a registered party > >> > >> registered party: a party is registered under the Act if it succeeds in > >> endorsing 50 or more confirmed candidates in a general election and meets > >> certain other conditions > >> > >> suspended party: a registered party whose registration has been suspended > >> because it has failed to maintain, at a subsequent election, the > >conditions > >> to keep its status as a registered party. > >> > >> Registered Political Parties > >> ============================ > >> Bloc QuEbEcois > >> Canadian Action Party > >> Canadian Reform Conservative Alliance (Canadian Alliance) > >> Communist Party of Canada > >> Liberal Party of Canada > >> Marijuana Party > >> Marxist-Leninist Party of Canada > >> Natural Law Party of Canada > >> New Democratic Party > >> Progressive Conservative Party of Canada > >> The Green Party of Canada > >> > >> Eligible Political Party > >> ======================== > >> Christian Heritage Party > >> National Alternative Party of Canada > >> The Ontario Party of Canada > >> > >> From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Subject: Re: Moron? > >> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 2002 20:59:39 -0600 > >> > >> Ok, post the link. Objective? I didn't see any partisan bias on the > page > >I > >> sent, only party names addressed and URLs? > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> Sent: Sunday, November 24, 2002 5:31 PM > >> Subject: Re: Moron? > >> > >> > >> > Elections Canada is a much more reliable and objective source. > >> > > >> > larry > >> > > >> > >http://www.altstuff.com/federal.htm > >> > > > >> > >Thats where I got the parties from. > >> > > > >> > >----- Original Message ----- > >> > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 10:24 PM > > > > >Subject: Re: Moron? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> No that was done in the last few federal elections, with > Canadians > > > > >> sweeping the Conservative Party under the rug, and letting the > >other > >> > >> parties, ie the National Alliance, humiliate themselves, mind you > >> > >> Stockton Day was even more clueless than the present nominee > of the > >> > >> Republican party for the next presidential election. > >> > >> > >> > >> As for the number of political parties, I've always followed the > >> > >> rules of Parliamentary Procedure for the Canadian House of > Commons, > >> > >> > >> > >> "How to register a political party > > > > >> > >> > >> Forming a political party and registering a political party are > >> > >> completely different, in that there is no legislation regulating > >the > >> > >> formation of political parties. However, once a party is formed it > >> > >> may apply to be registered. After its registration is > approved, the > >> > >> party will then be governed by rules under the Canada Elections > >Act. > >> > >> > >> > >> Applications for registration must be filed with the Chief > >Electoral > >> > >> Officer for verification and approval at least 60 days before the > > > > >> writs are issued. Once approved, a party earns the right to be > >> > >> included in the allocation of broadcasting time, to issue official > >> > >> tax receipts for donations, and to have its name included on the > >> > >> election ballot. > >> > >> > >> > >> It is important to note that official registration can take effect > >> > >> only the day after the new party officially nominates > candidates in > >> > >> at least 50 electoral districts at a general election. When an > >> > >> application is filed less than 60 days before the writs are > issued, > >> > >> registration cannot take effect for that general election. > >> > >> > >> > >> To maintain its registration, a registered political party must > >> > >> nominate candidates in at least 50 electoral districts at a > general > >> > >> election. Under the law, failure to do so must result in > >> > >> deregistration of that party by the Chief Electoral Officer. > >> > >> > >> > >> There were 13 political parties registered before the 36th federal > >> > >> election was called, and four parties had been accepted for > >> > >> registration." > >> > >> > >> > >> Not sure where you get 37 parties from. But these are just the > >> > >> official ones - parties that were able to nomimate people to > run in > >> > >> at least 50 ridings. > >> > >> > >> > >> larry > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >Ok. It's secret Candian speak. He said Liberals, but it was > >secret > >> code > >> > >> >for the Liberal Party. So, what are the codes for the other > >> "Liberal" > >> > >> >parties in Canada. Does Ultra-Liberal mean the New Democratic > >> Party? > >> > >Just > >> > >> >seems like Larry is trying to bend his words, and restate what > >they > >> guy > >> > >said > >> > >> >to fit his argument. > >> > >> > > >> > >> >I did some checking and there are about 37 different Federtal > >> political > >> > >> >parties in Canada. It seems as though there are several > >> Conservative > >> > >> >parties there...I nosed around a few websites. I liked the > >> Christian > >> > >> >Heritage party site....of course the Marijuana party website and > >> > >> >Marxist-Leninist Party website were interesting in their own > >right. > >> > >There > >> > >> >is even a Libertarian party in Canada. While Liberals (and I > >don't > >> mean > >> > >the > >> > >> >Liberal Party) may be the majority in Canada, I don't think that > >you > >> can > >> > >> >just sweep the conservative parties under the rug as Larry wishes > >> too. > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 4:44 PM > >> > >> >Subject: Re: Moron? > >> > >> > > >> > >> > > >> > >> >> Eric, > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> Its a Canadian thing. He wouldn't understand. > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> And now for the traditional Winnipeg greeting, > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> How 'bout them Bombers eh? > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> larry > >> > >> >> > >> > >> >> >But I agree with Larry, he said Liberals, and meant the > >Liberal > >> > >Party. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >e > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >From: "Kevin Schmidt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > > > >> >Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > >> >> >To: CF-Community <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> >Subject: Re: Moron? > >> > >> >> >Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 08:47:26 -0600 > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> >Doesn't sound like he is referring to the "Liberal Party" is > >he > >> were > >> > >you > >> > >> >> >think he would have said "the Liberal Party", not Liberals. > >> > >> >> >----- Original Message ----- > > > > >> >> >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> >Sent: Saturday, November 23, 2002 6:21 AM > >> > >> >> >Subject: Re: Moron? > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> >> > > He was referring to the LIberal Party. He was doing his > >job > >> as > >> > >> > > > > Foreign Relations minister (placating the US), and he is > >> also > >> > >running > >> > >> >> > > in the forthcoming leadership election. It doesn't > >> invalidate > >> > >what > > > > >> >> > > I've been saying. > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > larry > >> > >> >> > > > >> > >> >> > > >54po0rfff2vb23Larry, > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >I guess the whole country tilts to the left. So I shall > >> say > >> she > >> > >is > >> > >> >a > >> > >> >> >member > >> > >> >> > > >of "a" left wing party. Doesn't matter how left they > >are, > >> or it > >> > >> >they > >> > >> >> >are > >> > >> >> > > >the most or least left. My statement that she > belongs to > >> the > >> > >> >liberal > >> > >> >> >left > >> > >> >> > > >is accurate. I based my statement off of one of the > many > >> > >articles > >> > >> >> > > >avaialable on the Toronto Star. > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >>From the Toronto Star: > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >"Earlier Friday, Foreign Affairs Minister Bill Graham > >said > >> the > >> > >> >reported > >> > >> >> > > >remarks won't sour Canada-U.S. relations." > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >"Graham said he "didn't accept the premise" that the > >> > >relationship > >> > >> >has > >> > >> > > > > >worsened significantly under a perception of > >> anti-Americanism > >> > >among > >> > >> >some > >> > >> > > > > >Liberals." > >> > >> > > > > > > >> > >> > > > > >So obviously there are people there who are not liberal > >> > >otherwise he > >> > >> >> >would > >> > >> >> > > >have substituted Canadians instead of liberals. > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> >> > > >From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> > > >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> > > >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 6:13 PM > >> > >> >> > > >Subject: Re: Moron? > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > > > >> > >> >> > > >> ROFL! > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> You may want to check on the name of the Party, its > >> called > >> > >the > >> > >> >> > > >> Liberal Party. Its a center moderate party. The left > >> wing > >> in > >> > >> >Canada > >> > >> >> > > >> is the New Democratic Party. The right wing is > >> represented > >> > >by > >> > >> >the > >> > >> >> > > >> National Alliance party (and the remnants of the > >> Progressive > >> > >> >> > > >> Conservative party). All over the place is the Bloc > >> > >Quebecois. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> You need to get the facts correct. The LIberals are > >> middle of > >> > >the > >> > >> >> > > >> road, more like Democrats yes, but by no means what > >you > >> would > >> > >> >call > >> > >> >> > > >> liberal, to Canadians. Mind you compared to most > >> political > >> > >> >attitudes > >> > >> >> > > >> in the US, the National Alliance Party is more > akin to > >> the > >> > >> >Democrats. > >> > >> >> > > >> The only groups that are akin to American > >conservatives > >> are > >> > >> >generally > >> > >> >> > > >> considered to be on the far right fringe in Canada. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> Another case of Prime Minister Poutine again I guess. > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> larry > >> > >> >> > > >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >Larry, > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> >You should mention Canadian "Liberal" > perceptiveness. > >> After > >> > >all > >> > >> >he > >> > >> >> >is a > >> > >> >> > > >> >member of the left wing party in Canada. There was > >> outrage > >> > >> >> >expressed > >> > >> >> >by > >> > >> >> > > >the > >> > >> >> > > >> >right in Canada. Nothing more than politics. > >> > >> >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> > >> >> > > >> >From: "Larry Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > > > >> >> > > >> >To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >> > >> >> > > >> >Sent: Friday, November 22, 2002 12:56 PM > >> > >> >> > > >> >Subject: RE: Moron? > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > >> >> just typical Canadian perceptiveness. The aide > >will > >> > >probably > >> > >> >> >resign or > >> > >> >> > > >be > >> > >> >> > > >> >> fired, but probably will be rehired in a short > >> while, > >> > >since > >> > >> >he > >> > >> >> > > >probably > >> > >> >> > > >> >> looks like a hero to many Canadians. Bush is not > >at > >> all > >> > >> >popular > >> > >> >> > > >outside of > >> > >> >> > > >> >> the US. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> Besides if the US wants to complain, then the > Bush > >> > >> >administration > >> > >> >> > > >should > >> > >> >> > > >> >> clean up its own house first. > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> larry > >> > >> >> > > >> >> > >> > >> >> > > >> >> -- > >> > >> >> > > >> >> Larry C. 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