Rote learning, when backed up by tests to force the person to apply that learning, is what I was looking for. Comprehension can come from the use of rote. Of course, I never added in the "perform or get shocked" portion of the experiment. :)
> Problem is that simple list learning, and similar repetitive learning > tasks, are not really a good measure of real learning. Also I would > suspect that you'd have very different results if you looked at your > subject's attentional abilities beforehand. > > > larry > > At 03:40 PM 12/3/02 -0500, you wrote: > >Temporary is all that you need when dealing with information and repetition. > >REST+hypnotic state+information = information retention > >For those in the dark, REST is Reduced Environmental Stimulation. It's > >basically > >removing all stimulation from a subject (sound, light, etc.). This causes the > >senses to become hyper alert as they look for some form of stimulation. At > >this > >point, any introduced stimulation has a profound effect on the subject. > >For those in the know, yes this sounds exactly like many forms of > >brainwashing. > >We're just looking at it for its positive effects. :) > > > > > > > REST is a very interesting area. One colleague of my advisor, a guy named > > > Barabasz, did some very interesting work in that area, he looked at EEG, > > > and REST, and observed changes in attentional processing and > > > hypnotizability over time. However changes were only temporary. > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > At 03:04 PM 12/3/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > >One of my papers in experimental was on REST and learning. Brainwash your > > > >friends to learn better. :) > > > > > > > > > > > > > Can't say the same about myself. My dissertation was on attentional > > > > > processing and hypnotic susceptibility. To get an adequate sample size > > > > > (equal number of people who were highly, moderately and not very > > > > > hypnotizable) we assessed about 2000 people on their responsiveness to > > > > > hypnosis. It worked out to be around 500 people per semester. > > > > > > > > > > Then after the initial screenings I had to reassess the 160 people on a > > > > > more complex and demanding hypnotizabilty measure. Eventually I > > ended up > > > > > with about 40 in each of the high, medium and low hypnotizable groups. > >Then > > > > > I had to do the actual study, (more on that some other time). > > > > > > > > > > The funny thing of it was is that after I learned and was certified in > > > > > hypnosis, I ended up not being very responsive to it. It wasn't that > > > > > anything changed, I just got too critical of the techniques being used. > > > > > > > > > > larry > > > > > > > > > > At 04:24 PM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote: > > > > > >On a mundane level I can alter the list software to never send a post > >from > > > > > >me to > > > > > >you and I can alter the archives to generate a thread that's missing > > > > all of > > > >my > > > > > >posts. A bit of work, but well within the abilities of the code. > > > > > >As for Judith's comment, I'm a total innocent and have never > > hypnotized > > > >anyone > > > > > >for any reason but good. Just ask my vict.. patients. I mean patients, > > > >they're > > > > > >patients. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Do you really want me to? truly? You know, I'm very good at what > > > > I do. > > > >;) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You can make me ignore you? > > > > > > > Judith, is this true? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5