Rote learning, when backed up by tests to force the person to apply that
learning, is what I was looking for. Comprehension can come from the use of
rote. Of course, I never added in the "perform or get shocked" portion of the
experiment. :)


> Problem is that simple list learning, and similar repetitive learning
> tasks,  are not really a good measure of real learning.  Also I would
> suspect that you'd have very different results if you looked at your
> subject's attentional abilities beforehand.
>
>
> larry
>
> At 03:40 PM 12/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> >Temporary is all that you need when dealing with information and repetition.
> >REST+hypnotic state+information = information retention
> >For those in the dark, REST is Reduced Environmental Stimulation. It's
> >basically
> >removing all stimulation from a subject (sound, light, etc.). This causes the
> >senses to become hyper alert as they look for some form of stimulation. At
> >this
> >point, any introduced stimulation has a profound effect on the subject.
> >For those in the know, yes this sounds exactly like many forms of
> >brainwashing.
> >We're just looking at it for its positive effects. :)
> >
> >
> > > REST is a very interesting area. One colleague of my advisor, a guy named
> > > Barabasz, did some very interesting work in that area, he looked at EEG,
> > > and REST, and observed changes in attentional processing and
> > > hypnotizability over time. However changes were only temporary.
> > >
> > > larry
> > >
> > >
> > > At 03:04 PM 12/3/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > > >One of my papers in experimental was on REST and learning. Brainwash your
> > > >friends to learn better. :)
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > Can't say the same about myself. My dissertation was on attentional
> > > > > processing and hypnotic susceptibility. To get an adequate sample size
> > > > > (equal number of people who were highly, moderately and not very
> > > > > hypnotizable) we assessed about 2000 people on their responsiveness to
> > > > > hypnosis. It worked out to be around 500 people per semester.
> > > > >
> > > > > Then after the initial screenings I had to reassess the 160 people on
a
> > > > > more complex and demanding hypnotizabilty measure. Eventually I
> > ended up
> > > > > with about 40 in each of the high, medium and low hypnotizable groups.
> >Then
> > > > > I had to do the actual study, (more on that some other time).
> > > > >
> > > > > The funny thing of it was is that after I learned and was certified in
> > > > > hypnosis, I ended up not being very responsive to it. It wasn't that
> > > > > anything changed, I just got too critical of the techniques being
used.
> > > > >
> > > > > larry
> > > > >
> > > > > At 04:24 PM 12/2/02 -0500, you wrote:
> > > > > >On a mundane level I can alter the list software to never send a post
> >from
> > > > > >me to
> > > > > >you and I can alter the archives to generate a thread that's missing
> > > > all of
> > > >my
> > > > > >posts. A bit of work, but well within the abilities of the code.
> > > > > >As for Judith's comment, I'm a total innocent and have never
> > hypnotized
> > > >anyone
> > > > > >for any reason but good. Just ask my vict.. patients. I mean
patients,
> > > >they're
> > > > > >patients.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Do you really want me to? truly? You know, I'm very good at what
> > > > I do.
> > > >;)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > You can make me ignore you?
> > > > > > > Judith, is this true?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 
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