Couple more good quotes, some from the opposition also:

Every Communist must grasp the truth, 'Political power grows out of the barrel of a 
gun.' 
-- Mao Tse-tung, 1938, inadvertently endorsing the Second Amendment.

The most foolish mistake we could possibly make would be to permit the conquered 
Eastern peoples to have arms. History teaches that all conquerors who have allowed 
their subject races to carry arms have prepared their own downfall by doing so. 
-- Hitler, April 11 1942

The conclusion is thus inescapable that the history, concept, and wording of the 
second amendment to the Constitution of the United States, as well as its 
interpretation by every major commentator and court in the first half-century after 
its ratification, indicates that what is protected is an individual right of a private 
citizen to own and carry firearms in a peaceful manner. 

-- Report of the Subcommittee On The Constitution of the Committee On The Judiciary, 
United States Senate, 97th Congress, second session (February, 1982), SuDoc# Y4.J 
89/2: Ar 5/5

This is a god one:

"Among the many misdeeds of the British rule in India, history will look upon the act 
of depriving a whole nation of arms, as the blackest." 
-- Mahatma Gandhi

-----Original Message-----
From: Timothy Heald 
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:59 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)


Yes, it was written over 200 years ago, when militias were for protection, law 
enforcement and protection from tyranny.

However, it doesn't say you had to be in the militia in order to own the weapon, now 
why wouldn't it say that?  Because of the idea of the unorganized militia was that all 
men (which would of course be updated to all adults both male and female) where 
automatically members of the militia.  This was kind of the reasoning behind the 
draft, which I still support.

All adults should have been members, therefore all adults should be able to own 
military weapons.

Another point.  I am in the national guard now.  This is supposedly the "organized 
militia" the constitution speaks of.  So should I be able to go buy an M-16 or an 
AK-47? I could be called to fight both locally and in other nations, and called to do 
federal service in an active duty unit at any time.  So do I meet the requirements of 
the amendment in your eyes?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Howie Hamlin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:31 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)


This was written over 200 years ago when militias were necessary for domestic 
protection as the army at that time could
not possibly protect the entire US.  So, if you were in a militia that was formed for 
domestic defense then you could
own a weapon.  As plain as it is written, the NRA still manages to twist the original 
meaning to satisfy their own
agenda.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 12:23 PM
Subject: Poll was(RE: Court Upholds Calif. Assault Weapons Ban)


> OK folks. Snap poll:
>
> "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right 
>of the people to keep and bear
arms shall not be infringed." - The second amendment to the constitution of the United 
States
>
> 1. This proclaims an individual right.
>
> 2. This proclaims a state right.
>
> My rant will follow.
>
> Tim
>



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