So you are saying that their are uncounted couples with children that used to go out to eat seperately, now will go out as a family because there is no smoking section now?
That seems illogical on many fronts to me. Including first hand experience. How about examining the real world consequences of banning the smoking section have been? Have you been to a restaurant here in Florida since Jan 1? Have you seen the throngs of people standing right outside the front door smoking on a busy night? If anything I think the fact that parents have to walk through 10-20 strangers smoking would be a bit intimidating. Especially at restaurants frequented by younger people. I think it's kinda cool though, gives an ordinary Chile's a sort of clubland feel. Have you been to restaurants where most of the eaters were smokers? Like the pork place down the road...it's is practically dead now. I don't see kids and their parents making up the slack. Personally I get sick of all the damn car drivers going around polluting the earth, and supporting terrorists in the mideast. Even if I wasn't a smoker...I'd still think car drivers were much worse. I mean why can't they all learn to carpool? They are all selfish pigs, that's why. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Wednesday, January 22, 2003, 1:05:20 PM, you wrote: WW> Then they can open a stand alone bar ;) WW> And for all the damn smokers who cry and go home cause of the law the same WW> number of people who dont smoke will come and also bring their kids or such. WW> ----- Original Message ----- WW> From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WW> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> WW> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:49 PM WW> Subject: RE: SUV break? >> "I love Florida's new law where you cant smoke in businesses anymore WW> except stand alone bars its wonderful even better then Maryland's law. And WW> as I said if you can seal a building completely and not let the smoke out WW> into the air I'm breathing great." >> >> That is getting into someone else's business. Namely the property owner WW> or business owner. What if they want to allow smoking in their privately WW> run business. What gives you the right to tell them they can't? >> >> Tim >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:42 PM >> To: CF-Community >> Subject: Re: SUV break? >> >> >> Hay I'm all for making drugs legal as long the penalties for doing illegal >> stuff while on them are harsh like drug driving. >> >> And I never said 1 word about going into someone's business ;). I love >> Florida's new law where you cant smoke in businesses anymore except stand >> alone bars its wonderful even better then Maryland's law. And as I said if >> you can seal a building completely and not let the smoke out into the air >> I'm breathing great. As for that I will be happy when cars are not bad for >> the health either but I'm more annoyed with all the people who are WW> smokers. >> Of course not real smokers but second hand smokers. Once they come out WW> with >> the nicely injectable cigarette I'll be happy because then when people WW> have >> to jab a needle in their arm to do something "recreational" it gives it a >> new light. I don't mean people who need it for medical purposes like WW> insulin >> shots or such, but when you look at someone puffing on a cigarette it WW> looks >> pretty bad now but when you have to jab a needle in the arm to do it might >> make people reflect. But I'm all for it 0 emissions cigarettes baby the WW> wave >> of the future, don't kill other people with a smokers bad habits. I don't >> goto bars and such because I don't want to smell the nastiness of it. Hay >> its your right so long as you don't get up in my grill with the smoke I'm >> kewl with you. I have many smoker friends and they think I'm crazy for >> wanting an injectable cigarette hell even make it into a pill ;) >> >> And I got nothing against people who smoke until they try to complain >> because nobody forces you to pick up a bad habit. I bite my finger nails I >> cant stand doing it but I don't go complaining about it to others. Though WW> I >> will have you know I'm down to just 1 hand a day, and its a horribly hard >> habit to break its unconscious much like smoking is so I get the its hard WW> to >> quit part. And I'm proud of people who try its awesome, I just wish more >> people who try to quit could win the battle. >> >> :) >> >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Timothy Heald" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 12:28 PM >> Subject: RE: SUV break? >> >> >> > My feelings in the smoking argument. >> > >> > If you don't like smoking don't go to restaurants and bars that allow. >> Don't go to peoples houses that smoke. Don't get in their cars. If you >> want to make smoking illegal on the sidewalk that's fine with me, but WW> allow >> private business to have their own smoking policy. The anti-smoking laws WW> in >> NY are insane as far as I am concerned. I do not think it's right for me WW> to >> enforce my smoking on you, that's wrong, but so is your enforcing your >> non-smoking on me. >> > >> > But then again I also think most if not all drugs should be legal. >> > >> > Tim >> > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 11:05 AM >> > To: CF-Community >> > Subject: Re: SUV break? >> > >> > >> > Well its good the govt did it because dude if you dont smoke you're WW> dieing >> > from those idiots who smoke too. >> > And hay if you want to smoke in a sealed room where it wont get out to WW> me >> > great but it will. >> > And the govt though only really doing it because they have to pay so WW> much >> in >> > medicare and such because of smokers, not for the reason it should be >> > concerned because it kills people. >> > Its in the long run going to hopefully get more people to quit and save >> > lives. Shit they can even >> > go back to making cigarettes like they used to less unhealthy for you WW> then >> > the crap they make now. >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Nick McClure" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:44 AM >> > Subject: RE: SUV break? >> > >> > >> > > Yes, I think it's a bad thing, because it is all based on who makes WW> the >> > > laws. >> > > >> > > Why not put a tax on ham sandwiches. Also these are usually state WW> taxes, >> > > not federal taxes, there is a difference. >> > > >> > > > -----Original Message----- >> > > > From: William Wheatley [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] >> > > > Sent: Wednesday, January 22, 2003 10:36 AM >> > > > To: CF-Community >> > > > Subject: Re: SUV break? >> > > > >> > > > So you disagree with the higher cigarette taxes as a way to WW> discourage >> > > > children from smoking and even to help >> > > > discourage people from quitting smoking. The tax helps pay for WW> smoking >> > > > illness but its also and has been shown to help people stop smoking >> > > for >> > > > which alot of the taxes were intended. >> > > > >> > > > It was made to curb consumer choice and i support it. Of course >> > > personally >> > > > i >> > > > wish every smoker would keel over so i dont have to smell the smoke >> > > but >> > > > hay >> > > > we cant all get what we want. I could always go the bubble boy route >> > > lol >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> >> WW> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5