I decided to resend this since I didn't see the original come through.  Also
it gave me a chance to edit the original a bit.  

BTW did anyone see that Islamic extremists are claiming responsibility for
the slammer worm?

Preface:
I do not speak for our government.  I am a programmer and nothing more.
These are not the opinions of the United States government.  Do not quote
this as a government source, because I don't even work for the government, I
am a contractor.

Well I think that we could expect an extended amount of "nation building"
say 10 - 20 years.  During which time we would have to deal with Baath party
terrorists, Islamic extremists, and communists.  Also you could expect to
see a popular Islamic uprising in Saudi Arabia and Egypt.  Now you could see
some very positive changes take place in both Iran and in Pakistan.  In Iran
the same students that went into the streets for Khomeini are now in the
streets against the sharia based government that he set up.  Pakistan could
see positive change on being scared by or invasion of Iraq.  Some of their
officials have already expressed fears that if they do not clean up their
own backyard, they could see foreign troops next.  India will continue to
have problems in Kashmir, and lets not forget about Burma and the Marxists.

I think you would see a general rise in terror and crime throughout the
world.  Generally when US troops are at war this occurs, the bad guys know
that we are spread thin, and actively engaged so they try to get away with
more. As always Africa is a big problem.  You have some Islamic movements
taking root there.  Still you have tribal conflicts raging that go back
hundreds of years.  There has also been a rise in white militancy in S
Africa.  This could expand if the US is felt to be unable to react to assist
the countries involved.

In south east Asia there is a huge Islamic movement.  Many countries there
are actively engaged in counter insurgency operations.  Having US and
British forces tied up in the gulf could allow some of these movements to
gain some ground.

In our hemisphere we have seen a lot of action in South and Central America
lately.  The strikes in Venezuela, the far left elections in many countries,
and the  rebel activities in Mexico and Colombia would be very troublesome.

Hehe, sounds like a lot of fun for the next few years huh?

Tim

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, February 05, 2003 4:55 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: Re: Secretary Powell's Presentation


Thanks Michael.

larry

At 04:53 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
>Either
>1. Its delayed for some reason (as was a post from Ben Doom that he emailed
me
>about and then received right after)
>2. It wasn't sent in the first place and there's still a problem with the
>server.
>I'll check the logs to see what the answer is.
>
>
> > Michael,
> >
> > Quite interesting, I'll have to have a look at it in more detail.
> >
> > A weird problem though, obviously my note to the list went through, but
I
> > never received it.
> >
> > larry
> >
> > At 04:28 PM 2/5/03 -0500, you wrote:
> > >Check this out. Like Seti@home but searching for a smallpox cure. In 
> this day
> > >and age, I think it's more important than finding ETs.
> > >http://www.grid.org/home.htm
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > > Cynical?
> > > >
> > > > when 3 weeks ago Bush's flack said as much in a press conference, 
> and last
> > > > December it was revealed that the Iraqi opposition groups were
cutting
> > > > deals with various American oil companies, yes I think that cynicism
is
> > > > justifiable.
> > > >
> > > > Powell's speech has all but convinced me that the evidence is 
> there, and
> > > > that the Saddam regime may be in material breech of the UN Gulf war
> > > > agreements and the various resolutions on the matter.
> > > >
> > > > As for the outcome, an ideal situation will be something like what
is
> > > > happening in the Kurdish region of northern Iraq, a relatively 
> prosperous
> > > > and democratic area.
> > > >
> > > > More likely the Saddam regime, once it looks like its going down, 
> will be
> > > > releasing any weapons of mass destruction in its possession, both
> > > > biological and chemical, on the other countries in the region,
noteably
> > > > Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, not to mention Israel.
> > > >
> > > > Consider this, all it takes is a few people who are loyal onto death
to
> > > > Saddam. A few days before they get on some commercial fights to the 
> US and
> > > > Britain, they inject themselves with the smallpox virus. By the 
> time the
> > > > aircraft lands in New York or London, all the passengers are
infected.
> > > > Within a week, several hundred others are infected. By a few days
> > > > thereafter, we have a major smallpox epidemic around the globe, 
> hundreds
>of
> > > > thousands may die.
> > > >
> > > > larry
> > > >
> > > > At 04:37 PM 2/5/03 -0400, you wrote:
> > > > >Ben..
> > > > >
> > > > >Oh you cynical guy you...
> > > > >^_^
> > > > >
> > > > >Yes that is the US expected outcome I suppose...the Saddam Regime
bit
> > > > >would probably benefit the entire region and the world.
> > > > >The rest would benefit the US.
> > > > >
> > > > >But what might the *actual* outcome be of a US attack?
> > > > >
> > > > >-Gel
> > > > >-----Original Message-----
> > > > >From: Ben Braver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > >
> > > > >Expected outcome?
> > > > >Umm, how 'bout Saddam regime toppled,
> > > > >US-friendly regime put in place,
> > > > >Oil contracts shift from France and Russia to US and Britain? Just
a
> > > > >wild guess... -Ben
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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