Steve Gibson is a total nutcase who would not be allowed closer than
100 meters of our data center without climbing over all of our network
engineers dead bodies.

He pontificates about discovering what 13 year olds have (the DoS
article) known ever since they started playing with computers, then
proceeds to write about it in really big ugly fonts, figures out how
to hook up a port scanner to a web site and people think he knows what
he is talking about...whatever.

FYI, the black ice article was written at least a year ago now, and
Network Ice has long since released a version with application
protection simply to placate all the people who actually think it is a
useful feature that protects anyone from anything. If someone has
compromised a system to the point that they can place arbitrary
executables on it, games is over, no silly application protection is
going to stop anything. If not for the fact that it does help block
spyware, I'd say application protection was actually harmful because
of the false sense of security it gives.

People may wonder why I react so badly to him, but it really gets
under my skin when someone is admired by the public at large when the
people in his own self-proclaimed field laugh at him.

--
 jon
 mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 5:20:25 PM, you wrote:
LCL> would help if I posted a URL now wouldn't it.

LCL> http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm

LCL> larry

LCL> At 02:18 PM 3/4/2003 -0800, you wrote:
>>Ben,
>>
>>You may want to read this article by Steve Gibson of GRC about how
>>effective a firewall BlackIce really is. After that you may want to
>>download something a bit more effective.
>>
>>larry
>>
>>At 01:29 PM 3/4/2003 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Hatton-
>> >
>> >OUCH!
>> >Oooooh, so sorry to hear that.
>> >
>> >Gee, I've had BlackIce for quite a while, and it's never harmed me - just
>> >quietly logs attempted hacks <g>.
>> >
>> >Hope your recovery goes well.
>> >
>> >Gee, we both have new "internal jewelery" - you plates and pins, I a stent.
>> >Would have gladly settled for something external ;-)
>> >
>> >-Ben
>> >
>> >
>>
LCL> 
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