After reading that I can see his point BUT....it would never work in the "real world". I used to use @Guard before it was added to the craptacular Norton's Sutie of Useless Things and it did just what he is talking about. It blocked outbound traffic on pretty much all ports but port 80. It became quite annoying to create a rule for every time I went to a new FTP site, IRC server, ICQ, AIM, etc. To a technie like me, I don't mind that much but I can see a typical end user really just annoyed and not having to allow almost every form of communication.
Radicals like this do get under my skin. I can't tell you how many times I talk to an "expert" who just "knows more than I do." They find articles like this or just watch Tech TV all day and think they are instant experts because of it. ~~Dan -----Original Message----- From: jon hall [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:49 PM To: CF-Community Subject: Re: Hello Again! Steve Gibson is a total nutcase who would not be allowed closer than 100 meters of our data center without climbing over all of our network engineers dead bodies. He pontificates about discovering what 13 year olds have (the DoS article) known ever since they started playing with computers, then proceeds to write about it in really big ugly fonts, figures out how to hook up a port scanner to a web site and people think he knows what he is talking about...whatever. FYI, the black ice article was written at least a year ago now, and Network Ice has long since released a version with application protection simply to placate all the people who actually think it is a useful feature that protects anyone from anything. If someone has compromised a system to the point that they can place arbitrary executables on it, games is over, no silly application protection is going to stop anything. If not for the fact that it does help block spyware, I'd say application protection was actually harmful because of the false sense of security it gives. People may wonder why I react so badly to him, but it really gets under my skin when someone is admired by the public at large when the people in his own self-proclaimed field laugh at him. -- jon mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Tuesday, March 4, 2003, 5:20:25 PM, you wrote: LCL> would help if I posted a URL now wouldn't it. LCL> http://grc.com/lt/leaktest.htm LCL> larry LCL> At 02:18 PM 3/4/2003 -0800, you wrote: >>Ben, >> >>You may want to read this article by Steve Gibson of GRC about how >>effective a firewall BlackIce really is. After that you may want to >>download something a bit more effective. >> >>larry >> >>At 01:29 PM 3/4/2003 -0400, you wrote: >> >Hatton- >> > >> >OUCH! >> >Oooooh, so sorry to hear that. >> > >> >Gee, I've had BlackIce for quite a while, and it's never harmed me - just >> >quietly logs attempted hacks <g>. >> > >> >Hope your recovery goes well. >> > >> >Gee, we both have new "internal jewelery" - you plates and pins, I a stent. >> >Would have gladly settled for something external ;-) >> > >> >-Ben >> > >> > >> LCL> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting. Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
