You, of course, are correct. When I said "Canada as a whole", I only meant the Government as a whole.
Talking about the Canadian people as a whole is beyond my ability and knowledge. Everything else you said I also agree with. Thanks for making my own feelings so clear. Jerry Johnson >>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/03 12:08PM >>> I think you should be careful when you talk about Canada as a whole. I am from Canada and I have mixed feelings about the whole thing. I can't speak for the government, but I can tell you that the government is not anti-American and it is not pro-Hussein. Canada has a strong record of supporting international diplomacy, so their position makes sense from that perspective. Personally I am glad to see someone trying to kick Hussein's butt, but I am also horrified and saddened by the civilian deaths. I guess the U.S.'s action represents a slap in the face to the U.N., but maybe they needed that slap. On the other hand, that doesn't mean that all other governments should necessarily join in that slap. Privately many in the Canadian goverment may applaud it while still recognizing the need to stand on what they perceive as the side of international law and diplomacy. I know that many in Canada support the US-led action and wish our government had acted differently, and certainly many like myself support the U.S. troops regardless of their feelings about the whole action. Others feel strongly that the troops shouldn't have gone in. John Stanley's satirical statement about clarity points to the shades of grey that are felt by people here just as much as they are in the States. I don't see how anyone can expect consensus anyways, since war is about division - not unity. Personally I think Bush is a cowboy, and brought the Canadian government's reaction on himself. After all our government had put forward a compromise proposal that the US decided to reject (based of course on their assessment of France and Germany's position). It would have been pretty unlikely for them to have taken sides with the Bush administration. Personally, I find that Canadians can be arrogant and negative prigs at times and the best of us know it, even if we rarely admit it. And I detest the anti-Americanism I sometimes see here, especially since it's so knee-jerk. I hate prejudice in any form. -Patrick >-----Original Message----- >From: Jerry Johnson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: April 2, 2003 9:47 AM >To: CF-Community >Subject: Re: FW: An apology to the U.S....... > > >Larry, that is BS. > >Canada as a whole, and the elected Gov in particular, have >been _very_ clear in their feelings and participation in this war. > >If they could (in their own good concience) let us hang by >withdrawing their forces in these other areas, I think they would. > >They are _not_ participating in this war. > >Unless you are saying that this war = the war on terrorism, >then obviously the Canadians are helping in that bigger war. > >But at least they are not (like the French and Germans) >actively opposing us in this war. > >Just my opinion, >Jerry Johnson > >>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 04/02/03 08:45AM >>> >Typically Canadian but very apt. > >One point that has been pissing me off. I'm hearing whiny >complaints by >various people in the area about Canada's participation in the >Iraqi War. >Yes Canadian forces as a whole are not participating. However >to set the >record straight, there are 7 ships from the Canadian navy in >the region >(the Red Sea and the Gulf) participating in the anti-terrorism >patrols - >freeing up US navy assets btw. There is also another Canadian >battalion is >heading over to Afghanistan, while special operations units, >such as the >JTF2 are also working with US forces in that theater. > >So do me a favour, cut the bs about Canada's non-participation. > >larry > >At 05:11 AM 4/2/2003 +0000, you wrote: >>Cute. Very cute. >>And quite smug. >>I enjoyed it, even while feeling insulted. >>:-) >> >>-Ben >> >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >Came across this today, written by Rick Mercer: >> > > > >> > > >On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an >apology to >> > > >the United States of America. We haven't been getting >along very >> > > >well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. >> > > > >> > > >I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron but, it >> > > >wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any >consolation, the fact >> > > >that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the >people of America. >> > > >After all it's not like you actually elected him. >> > > > >> > > >I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we >have more trees >> > > >than you doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber >that's cheaper >> > > >and better than your own. >> > > > >> > > >I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our >defense I guess our >> > > >excuse would be that our teams were much, much, much, >much better >> > > >than yours. >> > > > >> > > >I'm sorry we burnt down your white house during the >war of 1812. I >> > > >notice you've rebuilt it! It's Very Nice. I'm sorry about your >> > > >beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer but, >we Feel your >> > > >Pain. >> > > > >> > > >I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going >> > > >up against a crazed dictator, you wanna have your >friends by your >> > > >side. I realize it took more than two years before you >guys pitched >> > > >in against Hitler, But that was different. Everyone knew he had >> > > >weapons. >> > > > >> > > >And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we >> > > >are constantly apologizing for things in a passive >aggressive way >> > > >which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely >hope that >> > > >you're not upset over this. We've seen what you do to >countries you >> > > >get upset with. >> > > > >> > > >Thank you. >> > > >> > >> > >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Your ad could be here. Monies from ads go to support these lists and provide more resources for the community. http://www.fusionauthority.com/ads.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89 70.5
