the difference is that you are not president and you are not sworn to uphold the constitution.
Dana Nick McClure writes: > His oath was not sworn to this country, but to God. Breaking any oath is > between him and God. > > Remember, he thought his actions were best for America in the fight against > communism, or so were the claims. Did he betray the people, I don't think > so, the constitution assumes people will break the law, that is why it has > provisions for setting up courts to try people. > > Do betray the country if I take from you? I broke laws set up by the states, > the states are setup by the constitution via congress. > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 2:16 PM > > To: CF-Community > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > Well I missed out on all those American Government classes in elementary > > and high school, but doesnt the US President, in his oath of office, > > promise to uphold the Constitution? Isn't it pretty much established that > > Nixon used his powers powers to harass people who disagreed with him? The > > Pentagon Papers anyone? That while in office he committed conspiracy to > > commit burglary in order to make it difficult to oppose him? Watergate, > > ever hear of that? > > > > Isn't freedom of speech in the Constitution? Isn't breaking an oath sworn > > to the people of this country a betrayal of this country? > > > > I have to get some work done today, so I wont even start on more recent > > examples. > > > > Dana > > > > Nick McClure writes: > > > > > I wouldn't say that Nixon betrayed his country. He committed crimes for > > > which there are ways of dealing with. What Nixon did was wrong, but not > > a > > > betrayal of his country. > > > > > > To betray this country I believe involves treason. > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 1:20 PM > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > > > > you are equating "betray this country" with treason. I think that > > Nixon > > > > betrayed this country. But not by committing treason. > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > Nick McClure writes: > > > > > > > > > Actually, there is no room for argument: > > > > > > > > > > Article III. Section. 3: > > > > > > > > > > Treason against the United States, shall consist only in levying War > > > > against > > > > > them, or in adhering to their Enemies, giving them Aid and Comfort. > > No > > > > > Person shall be convicted of Treason unless on the Testimony of two > > > > > Witnesses to the same overt Act, or on Confession in open Court. > > > > > > > > > > The Congress shall have Power to declare the Punishment of Treason, > > but > > > > no > > > > > Attainder of Treason shall work Corruption of Blood, or Forfeiture > > > > except > > > > > during the Life of the Person attainted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > From: Dana Tierney [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 12:03 PM > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > Subject: Re: A good american > > > > > > > > > > > > I suspect that "those who would betray this country" has a lot of > > room > > > > in > > > > > > it for argument. I am pretty sure that if I agreed with you on the > > > > > > statement, you and I would not be agreeing on who should be shot. > > So > > > > that > > > > > > throws up a huge caution flag in my opinion. > > > > > > > > > > > > Dana > > > > > > > > > > > > John Stanley writes: > > > > > > > > > > > > > Not at all. Those who would betray this country should be shot. > > > > Those > > > > > > who > > > > > > > serve valiantly this country deserve our respect and admiration. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > > > From: Larry C. Lyons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > > > > Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2003 9:55 AM > > > > > > > To: CF-Community > > > > > > > Subject: RE: A good american > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me put it this way, the sort of belief that deifies veterans > > etc > > > > is > > > > > > as > > > > > > > dangerous as those who would gladly betray this country. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > At 09:35 AM 6/11/2003 -0400, John Stanley wrote: > > > > > > > > >While I hardly think > > > > > > > > >that my survival depends on the sacrifices of the military, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Let me clarify, do you mean that you do not respect the > > veterans > > > > who > > > > > > have > > > > > > > >served and sometimes died for the Untied States? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
