Not every province has a regulated utility model. Alberta has a privatized electrical utility system. The city of Calgary actually owns Enmax, their primary electricity provider, for instance.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry C. Lyons" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Tuesday, July 8, 2003 2:35 pm Subject: RE: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > People pay more in taxes, yes, but much, much less in health > insurance, car insurance (for Manitoba and BC at least), > unemployment, workers compensation, education, college, etc. So > essentially it balances out. > > As for the bogus comment about mineral rights, it has nothing to > do > with socialism or whatever. Its from a far older system, called > the > british government model. The crown owns the land, and the > individual > buys from the government. > > As for the utilities, frankly as far as I'm concerned its better > that > the provincial government own the electrical utilities and get > some > hope of getting something back rather than it all going out of the > province to enrich some person who never had to work in his life. > > A quick comparison, Manitoba owns its electrical generation and > delivery systems. Before I left Winnipeg, Manitoba, I paid about > $15 > a month Canadian (approx $10) for an electrically heated 2 bedroom > apartment. Coming to Roanoke, Virginia, where there was a > privately > owned electrical utility, my electrical rates were about 3 times > as > much. > > There are some advantages to a regulated government monopoly. > > larry > > >They own their houses, but they have no mineral rights to what's > under the > >ground. Also look into Esso and the amount of money it gets from the > >government sometime. Look at the utilities and who owns and runs > those.> > >Your oversimplifying this a lot you know. BTW they pay far more > in taxes > >than we do. Hell GST, provincial and federal taxes, supporting > all of these > >various social programs. > > > >I don't know why you have such a problem with the word? How > would you > >define it? Is there some stigma you attach to socialist? > > > >Tim > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > >From: Dana Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:33 PM > >To: CF-Community > >Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > > > > > >Well all I know is that Tim claimed that it was socialist because > the large > >industries are government owned and something about property rights, > >neither of which is true. I have been in the states a long time > but I have > >family in Canada and ya they own houses, work and pay taxes in > very much > >the same way that I do. > > > >Dana > > > >Nick McClure writes: > > > >> That is only part of the equation. > >> > >> Socialism and democracy are not mutually exclusive, you can > have a > >socialist > >> democracy, capitalist monarchy or a communist republic. > >> > >> Socialism or capitalism is the economic side, democracy or > dictatorship is > >> the political side. > >> > >> I would say that Canada is not a 100% capitalist country. > There are > >> obviously capitalist ideas, but there are a number of > socialist ideas as > >> well. > >> > >> > -----Original Message----- > >> > From: Dana Tierney [EMAIL PROTECTED] > >> > Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2003 2:04 PM > >> > To: CF-Community > >> > Subject: Re: Altruism (was RE: US threatens Caribbean Countries) > >> > > >> > It's a parliamentary democracy. > >> > > >> > Dana > >> > > >> > Heald, Tim writes: > >> > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?method=subscribe&forumid=5 Signup for the Fusion Authority news alert and keep up with the latest news in ColdFusion and related topics. http://www.fusionauthority.com/signup.cfm Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5
