So basically your saying there were no famines or wars of aggression and
conquest throughout history?

Dewd, seriously this is some slanted thinking.  Agrarian societies were
feudal or some other totalitarian system.  This idea of community that your
preaching doesn't work in the real world.

Timothy Heald
Information Systems Specialist
Overseas Security Advisory Council
U.S. Department of State
571.345.2235


-----Original Message-----
From: s. isaac dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 4:10 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: RE: Re: RE: What would you do if you won PowerBall?


I suppose ultimately that I don't understand why people can't grow their own
food -- or just live tribally, you know, hunter/gatherer -- with the
possible exception of being on a small island where every square meter of
land belongs to someone who's unwilling to share in which case my answer is
to ration the land and/or provide those without any transportation to
someplace else... 

I don't think personally that I'd like to go back to an entirely
pre-agricultural state, because I suspect it's a lot easier to get by and
have food if you grow it intentionally, but, the fact that we're still here
at all is absolute proof that it can be done if necessary. In some ways
growing your own food is even better than having it grown by large corporate
agro-businesses and shipped hundreds or thousands of miles to the grocery in
big diesel trucks. Personally I'd really like to go back to living
communally and growing our own food at least for myself, although I don't
expect everyone to do that. I certainly think that would be a step up from a
sweat shop. 

Isaac 

Original Message -----------------------
If the alternative is starvation most people are willing to work. Be nice
if children didnt have to face that choice.

William Wheatley writes:

> Play devils advocate what about the kids who have to have a job and money
in
> order to survive for whatever reason?
> 
> I was listening to a piece on npr where a kid was saying (via translator)
> how he needed to work. When the inspector (or whatever the proper title
is)
> tried to shut the place down he fired the underage kid who was then
screwed
> since they didn't have the money to pay for food and such. They also
talked
> about child labor unions so the kids could make good $$. If there is
nothing
> else for a child to do and they have to work why should we hold the
> children, who WILLINGLY want to work , back and limit them. There is no
> social security in those countries no foster care what would become of
them
> if they were unable to work and provide for themselves.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "s. isaac dealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 1:31 PM
> Subject: RE: RE: What would you do if you won PowerBall?
> 
> 
> > How about buying the Gap (or some other large US-grown corp) and forcing
> them to stop actively contributing to sweat shops in third world
countries?
> >
> > http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=area+code+map
> >
> >
>
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/audiovideo/programmes/panorama/archive/970385.stm
> >
> > Isaac
> >
> > Original Message -----------------------
> > OK then I started this so here is mine.
> >
> > In no particular order (most likely all at once)
> >
> > - I would open an account for my grandmother to do with what she wants
as
> > she has supported me (bailed me out) for most of my life.
> > - Buy a house on an island and retire with my friends and family
> > - Maybe a mountain retreat somewhere with a huge telescope
> > - Visit the Great Wall of China
> > - Pay the Russians a million dollars to take me to space (maybe :))
> > - College for my kids (this includes some friends kids)
> > - I would like to buy a huge piece of the rain forest that I will never
> burn
> > or run off the natives.
> > - Buy Old Navy and force them to carry cloths for everyone.
> >
> > There is probably more.
> >
> > Rick Eidson
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 06, 2003 11:42 AM
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: What would you do if you won PowerBall?
> >
> > off the top, in no particular order:
> >
> > - keep working until I can pass knowledge on to a successor
> > - fix up the house, just the way we want it
> > (it's "home", so don't want to move to another place, maybe just expand)
> > - buy homes for kids, relatives, friends, so they always have a roof
over
> > - donate enough money to a particular charitable org (one my Mom worked
> > with)
> > for them to build a school with her name on it
> > - build a homeless shelter w/ job training center
> > - open a company to hire the successful grads of the job center
> > - build an apartment complex to house the workers
> > - travel, travel, travel
> > - study
> > - volunteer
> > - pray
> > - get really physically fit
> > - watch videos
> > - sleep late sometimes, then start the day by making love
> > instead of waking up early to go to work
> >
> > -Ben
> >
> >
> > > http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/2382747/detail.html
> > >
> > >
> > > Rick
> > >
> >
> >
> > 
> 


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