Excellent retort.  Your mind is a steel trap.

Thanks for offering nothing to the conversation.

Facts are over rated I guess.

Tim


-----Original Message-----
From: cantrl. a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:23 PM
To: CF-Community
Subject: would you work a coffee shop now?


That's right, somebody is going to invade us eventually. We still don't know
much about the people of this world or what they're capable of - coexistence
is way out of the question. Buy a lot of guns, lock your doors, and watch
out for them mexicans - ol' grampa willy from WWII says they're an awnry
bunch. :)

I like how my half serious words about defense contractor bloat (white
collar welfare) are twisted around to meaning that I don't appreciate
defending our country. It fondly reminds me of when people would say they
don't support a war, it was turned around on them by the chicken hawks as
meaning they don't support the troops. You've refined your skill well.


>Weird, missed a bunch of mail today I guess.
>
>Still don't have the original from Adam.  I would have went back to the
>beginnings of a debate that started, and fizzled quickly a while ago.  The
>premise is how much in dollars is security worth.  I started to say if you
>were doing a risk analysis what would you use to say the Value of the U.S.
>I guess it would have to be GDP.  Now if you say GDP then you would measure
>relationship between the security measures (defense spending) next to the
>GDP as a percentage.  When you do it like that you see that we aren't even
>in the top ten countries in the world (check the CIA fact book).
>
>More over, something Adam doesn't realize.  The only reason he can be a
>snotty, whiney bitch is because of that defense spending.  Please do
>realize, if we cut back, disarmed, and I don't know, planted the seeds of
>love and harmony and good will, someone would invade us eventually.  Who
>knows maybe the Mexicans or something.
>
>That's ok.  I support you in your right to complain all the time without
>offering possible alternative solutions.
>
>Also I think his budget comments are pretty funny considering my personal
>political beliefs.  I mean hell I figure the vast majority of the
government
>is extra-constitutional, meaning it's not specifically mentioned in the
>constitution or an amendment.  Therefore as far as I am concerned should be
>shut down.  However if we were to do that he would then loose all his feel
>good BS like federal involvement in the arts and education, welfare, social
>services and medical programs. Funny the thing he's complaining about right
>now, defense spending, is one of the few things the constitution does
>actually give the government power over.
>
>Tim
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:43 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: would you work a coffee shop now?
>
>
>Adam... Do yourself a favor and stick to subjects that you are more adept
>at, like SUVs and Liberal politics...  This little diatribe is quite
>worthless and shows your complete lack of understanding of Classified
>programs and the companies that conduct them.  Just keep working on those
>shopping carts man...
>
>Jeff
>
>----- Original Message ----- 
>From: "cantrl. a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:18 AM
>Subject: would you work a coffee shop now?
>
>
>Yeah, and after you've gained your secret clearance you'll have a great
list
>of opportunities lined up at positive companies like Raytheon, Carlyle
>Group, and Lockheed. The efficiency and positive morale found within these
>companies will be like therapy for your soul and you'll probably end up
>whistling every morning on the way to work just thinking about the positive
>contribution you're making to society. Go for that secret clearance man -
>you might get a chance to work on exciting projects such as Total
>Information Awareness, Carnivore, or maybe some logistic tracking
>applications for 'ordnance', or maybe you won't have to do anything and you
>can just sit around collecting the checks. The sucker tax payers are buying
>this terrorism stuff real good, so when any of the dirtballs without secret
>clearance ever bring up the fact that we spend more on defense than the
next
>5 highest spending countries combined, or the fact that we have like 15
>aircraft carriers (and building more) when the rest of the world only has
>like one - we can just make them look all unpatriotic and treasonous and
>stuff - hehe - it's really cool and funny.
>
>;P
>
>>Screw that p*ssy sh*t.
>>
>>Hey Paul you would like to have a clearance right?  I know most people
>>would. There are plenty of MOSs in the Army you can get that net you a
>>minimum of a secret clearance.  Here's the kewlest part of the deal.  The
>>National Guard has something called "try one"  You enlist for one year, go
>>to drill, go to school (can be as long as 6 months, something like that,
>>they don't want to send you to the long schools if your not staying) and
>>pretty much be done, but leave with an honorable discharge, a VA Cert
(good
>>to help buy that house) and your clearance.
>>
>>Of course this all means you could end up deployed in some god forsaken
>>hole, and extended out to your term of service (umm I think it's 8 years).
>>I have never heard of this happening.  Plus if you choose one of the soft
>>skills, like commo or whatever, those guys don't go away like infantry,
>>intel, sf, psyops, civil affairs and MPs.
>>
>>I have a few friends that want to break into government contracts around
>>here and I keep telling them the same thing.
>>
>>You might want to look into it man, try one is a good deal.
>>
>>Oh no bonus or college money for 1 year I don't think.
>>
>>Tim
>>
>>
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:24 PM
>>To: CF-Community
>>Subject: Re: would you work a coffee shop now?
>>
>>
>>I have a friend who is in a similar situation.  However, he actually
>>JOINED the Chair Force and will be getting 14 weeks of tech training
>>before going to work for their computer geeks in an official capacity.
>>This is after a relaxing 6-week stint at boot camp, of course :)
>>
>>- Jim
>>
>>Paul Ihrig wrote:
>>
>>>ok
>>>so after being officially off the full time corp. dev spot for a year.
>>>doing a job for the dod & air force, another for a brewery & another for
a
>>>still manufacturer.
>>>i am about to drop out.. and i mean way out.
>>>
>>>thinking of ditching the dreams of a brick 2 bedroom & kid or two.
>>>for a doughnut job & continued ghetto occupancy..
>>>
>>>why aggravate yourself, instead of getting comfortable?
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>

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