Actually Tim, John Adams said it best when he said "Facts are stubborn things."
Kevin >Excellent retort. Your mind is a steel trap. > >Thanks for offering nothing to the conversation. > >Facts are over rated I guess. > >Tim > > >-----Original Message----- >From: cantrl. a [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 3:23 PM >To: CF-Community >Subject: would you work a coffee shop now? > > >That's right, somebody is going to invade us eventually. We still don't know >much about the people of this world or what they're capable of - coexistence >is way out of the question. Buy a lot of guns, lock your doors, and watch >out for them mexicans - ol' grampa willy from WWII says they're an awnry >bunch. :) > >I like how my half serious words about defense contractor bloat (white >collar welfare) are twisted around to meaning that I don't appreciate >defending our country. It fondly reminds me of when people would say they >don't support a war, it was turned around on them by the chicken hawks as >meaning they don't support the troops. You've refined your skill well. > > >>Weird, missed a bunch of mail today I guess. >> >>Still don't have the original from Adam. I would have went back to the >>beginnings of a debate that started, and fizzled quickly a while ago. The >>premise is how much in dollars is security worth. I started to say if you >>were doing a risk analysis what would you use to say the Value of the U.S. >>I guess it would have to be GDP. Now if you say GDP then you would measure >>relationship between the security measures (defense spending) next to the >>GDP as a percentage. When you do it like that you see that we aren't even >>in the top ten countries in the world (check the CIA fact book). >> >>More over, something Adam doesn't realize. The only reason he can be a >>snotty, whiney bitch is because of that defense spending. Please do >>realize, if we cut back, disarmed, and I don't know, planted the seeds of >>love and harmony and good will, someone would invade us eventually. Who >>knows maybe the Mexicans or something. >> >>That's ok. I support you in your right to complain all the time without >>offering possible alternative solutions. >> >>Also I think his budget comments are pretty funny considering my personal >>political beliefs. I mean hell I figure the vast majority of the >government >>is extra-constitutional, meaning it's not specifically mentioned in the >>constitution or an amendment. Therefore as far as I am concerned should be >>shut down. However if we were to do that he would then loose all his feel >>good BS like federal involvement in the arts and education, welfare, social >>services and medical programs. Funny the thing he's complaining about right >>now, defense spending, is one of the few things the constitution does >>actually give the government power over. >> >>Tim >> >> >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Jeff Garza [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 12:43 PM >>To: CF-Community >>Subject: Re: would you work a coffee shop now? >> >> >>Adam... Do yourself a favor and stick to subjects that you are more adept >>at, like SUVs and Liberal politics... This little diatribe is quite >>worthless and shows your complete lack of understanding of Classified >>programs and the companies that conduct them. Just keep working on those >>shopping carts man... >> >>Jeff >> >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: "cantrl. a" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >>Sent: Tuesday, September 09, 2003 9:18 AM >>Subject: would you work a coffee shop now? >> >> >>Yeah, and after you've gained your secret clearance you'll have a great >list >>of opportunities lined up at positive companies like Raytheon, Carlyle >>Group, and Lockheed. The efficiency and positive morale found within these >>companies will be like therapy for your soul and you'll probably end up >>whistling every morning on the way to work just thinking about the positive >>contribution you're making to society. Go for that secret clearance man - >>you might get a chance to work on exciting projects such as Total >>Information Awareness, Carnivore, or maybe some logistic tracking >>applications for 'ordnance', or maybe you won't have to do anything and you >>can just sit around collecting the checks. The sucker tax payers are buying >>this terrorism stuff real good, so when any of the dirtballs without secret >>clearance ever bring up the fact that we spend more on defense than the >next >>5 highest spending countries combined, or the fact that we have like 15 >>aircraft carriers (and building more) when the rest of the world only has >>like one - we can just make them look all unpatriotic and treasonous and >>stuff - hehe - it's really cool and funny. >> >>;P >> >>>Screw that p*ssy sh*t. >>> >>>Hey Paul you would like to have a clearance right? I know most people >>>would. There are plenty of MOSs in the Army you can get that net you a >>>minimum of a secret clearance. Here's the kewlest part of the deal. The >>>National Guard has something called "try one" You enlist for one year, go >>>to drill, go to school (can be as long as 6 months, something like that, >>>they don't want to send you to the long schools if your not staying) and >>>pretty much be done, but leave with an honorable discharge, a VA Cert >(good >>>to help buy that house) and your clearance. >>> >>>Of course this all means you could end up deployed in some god forsaken >>>hole, and extended out to your term of service (umm I think it's 8 years). >>>I have never heard of this happening. Plus if you choose one of the soft >>>skills, like commo or whatever, those guys don't go away like infantry, >>>intel, sf, psyops, civil affairs and MPs. >>> >>>I have a few friends that want to break into government contracts around >>>here and I keep telling them the same thing. >>> >>>You might want to look into it man, try one is a good deal. >>> >>>Oh no bonus or college money for 1 year I don't think. >>> >>>Tim >>> >>> >>>-----Original Message----- >>>From: Jim Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >>>Sent: Monday, September 08, 2003 5:24 PM >>>To: CF-Community >>>Subject: Re: would you work a coffee shop now? >>> >>> >>>I have a friend who is in a similar situation. However, he actually >>>JOINED the Chair Force and will be getting 14 weeks of tech training >>>before going to work for their computer geeks in an official capacity. >>>This is after a relaxing 6-week stint at boot camp, of course :) >>> >>>- Jim >>> >>>Paul Ihrig wrote: >>> >>>>ok >>>>so after being officially off the full time corp. dev spot for a year. >>>>doing a job for the dod & air force, another for a brewery & another for >a >>>>still manufacturer. >>>>i am about to drop out.. and i mean way out. >>>> >>>>thinking of ditching the dreams of a brick 2 bedroom & kid or two. >>>>for a doughnut job & continued ghetto occupancy.. >>>> >>>>why aggravate yourself, instead of getting comfortable? >>>> >>>> >>> >> >> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=t:5 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm?link=s:5 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=89.70.5 This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. 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