Jim,

If I remember right we've met before, in person that is. If so then I
can say you've met at least one case of ADD. I was diagnosed with it
when I was 15. I was put on ritalin for several years and can say
that if it were not for the drug to help me focus and concentrate, I
would have ended up in prison or worse. While I have mostly outgrown
the physical aspects of it (the extreme hyperactivity and most of the
distractability/impulsiveness, I still do letter and word reversals
when I do not concentrate on my writing,  and I still have some
significant problems with figure ground relationships - being able to
disembed a target object figure from the surrounding field.

larry

>The nature vrs nuture debate is age-old and probably won't be settled
>here (wouldn't it be weird if it WERE tho?).  ;^)
>
>I've rarely seen "real" cases of ADD - it's perhaps one of the most
>over-diagnosed conditions in history - that's not to say that it's
>fictional, but it has become a refrain for some care providers.  I spent
>more than a while working with kids aged 5-10 (many of whom were
>troubled and many of whome where on drugs for perceived problems).
>
>Is there any time specificity to the events?  For example do they happen
>more in the morning or more in the afternoon?  Diet can play an
>important part in behavior (and may exacerbate existing imbalances).  If
>it happens more in the afternoon, for example, you might look at what
>he's eating for lunch (often school lunches, even if brought from home,
>differ significantly from home lunches).
>
>Is there any behavior at home that he may be prevented from doing ay
>school?  Does he, maybe, take a nap at home, but not at school?  This
>might also cause problems.
>
>One last idea: does he perhaps act out this way in other places - like
>the mall or toy stores?  Many children are very susceptible to the
>strobing of fluorescent lights.  It's a (very, very mild) form of
>epilepsy that most kids grow out of.  But, basically, when they're under
>fluorescent lights for long periods they tend to head South.  If his
>outbursts are more near the end of the day this may be a possible cause.
>
>
>There are a lot of other reasons to explore.  Many are social: some kids
>go wild around other kids - a so called "feedback loop" of misbehavior.
>Other times it's purely personality - one teacher is met with wild,
>out-of-control behavior, another is treated like the queen mother.  I've
>even heard of some allergies being causal.
>
>I would start by focusing on the possible changes in habit, behavior or
>circumstances first.  If he's been doing well before now there seems to
>be no reason to suspect that he's destined for this behavior.
>
>Jim Davis
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 3:18 PM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: Re: Genetic?
>
>We tried the ADD drugs, etc.. all last year. We were under the
>impression he was doing good this year, to our suprise, until today.
>
>He has been on 3 different types of meds for ADD, so I am not thinking
>it is that. I am going to be calling our pediatrician toomorrow
>
>Robert
>
>BethF wrote:
>
>>  Is it possible that he has ADD and that school has so much stimulation
>>  he turns into a holy terror?
>>   ----- Original Message -----
>>   From: Robert Bailey
>>   To: CF-Community
>>   Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 11:05 AM
>>   Subject: RE: Genetic?
>>
>>
>>   I am not thinking it is normal. I talked to the princ. today and she
>>  was
>>   concerned as she told me he is really acting out and with him being
>>  only
>>   in 1st grade, he should not have these problems.
>>
>>   Robert Bailey
>>
>>   Haggerty, Mike wrote:
>>
>> &n bsp; > That depends... is he bullying other kids or just giving the
>teacher a
>>   > hard time?
>>   >
>>   > My daughter has a teacher who cannot take much, and I have already
>>  been
>>   > to talk to her over what I consider normal stuff.
>>   >
>>   ! ;> M
>>   >
>>   > -----Original Message-----
>>   > From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >   > Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2003 2:55 PM
>>   > To: CF-Community
>>   > Subject: Genetic?
>>   >
>>   >
>>   > Let me direct this to anyone that knows anything about genetics
>>   > or has
>>   > kids. My son is a holy terror at school. At home, pretty good
>>   > kid for a
>>   > 5 year old. Now my wife swears that him a cting up in school is
>>   & gt; because
>>   > it is "genetic" and her brothers, etc.. got in a lot of trouble
>>   > at
>>   > school. I myself do not think it has anything to do with genes.
>>   > What do
>>   > you think?
>>   >
>>   > Robert Bailey
>>  &n! bsp;>
>>   >
>>   >
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