avoid docters. That's just being close-minded in a different direction.
My primary method for treating my depression is currently lifestyle choices
and acupuncture. I've been off meds for a year and a half, successfully.
(I've was diagnosed 17 years ago and have been on and off meds and tried
various things in that time.) But, I would never suggest that someone that
has not had a thorough exam and a diagnosis try to self-treat a condition
that they've self-diagnosed. It's dangerous. Suicide rates among the
depressed are extradorinarily high. There's a time and a place for meds, and
it should only come after consulting with a qualified professional.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 10:52 AM
Subject: RE: depression
> I treat colds/flu by drinking honey, lemon and ginger with hot water and
> taking boiling hot baths with olbas oil, it doesn't cure it but it helps.
>
> I'm not knocking people who take anti depressants, its whatever works for
> the individual. I have just seen my mother take them constantly for over
20
> years and she now has health problems due to this as well as a serious
> dependancy.
>
> Although i'm not knocking them, but sometimes there are other options
which
> are ignored by western medicine.
>
> I also know a little of what i'm talking about as I studied a form of
> Japanese medicine for 5 years, and they have different opinions for
solving
> health problems.
>
> Different approaches, theres no proof 100% either way whos right or wrong.
> I think if the person really believes in the treatment they are receiving
> then its half the battle.
>
> Basically, do what you like. Theres no harm having an open mind
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ben Doom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 22 October 2003 16:39
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: depression
>
>
> Those of us who are on antidepressants sometimes face a stigma because
> of it. There's also a broad lack of understanding that makes us a bit
> defensive. Both add up to a very strong reaction to people who say that
> the way we deal with our illness is wrong.
>
> I'm not trying to excuse her, just explain her reaction.
>
> And yes, you are entitled to your own opinion.
>
> Just out of curiosity, how do you treat colds? I'm not trying to be
> sarcastic or anything here. I'm just really curious.
>
> --Ben "The Depressed Diplomat" Doom
>
> Mark Smyth wrote:
>
> > Fine, you're welcome to your opinion.
> >
> >
> > Saying that, I'm also welcome to mine. I can just present mine without
> > swearing.
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Deanna Schneider [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 22 October 2003 16:18
> > To: CF-Community
> > Subject: Re: depression
> >
> > Okay, Mark, I have to call bullshit on this. Yes, there is a
> > mental/spiritual component to depression. But, there can also be a very
> real
> > physical component. (We've been through this before on the list, too.)
> Next
> > time you get the flu, don't be taking any drugs for it. I expect you to
> > enjoy the suffering and gain enlightenment from it.
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Mark Smyth" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: "CF-Community" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 22, 2003 9:05 AM
> > Subject: RE: depression
> >
> > > In my opinion leave the doctors alone, they'll only treat the
> > symptoms and
> > > probably give you anti-depressants. If there is one thing western
> > medicine
> > > could learn from eastern medicine is to look more deeply into the
> > underlying
> > > causes of illnesses and not constantly treting symptoms.
> > >
> > > My mother has been seriously affected by depression for around 20
> > years, I
> > > really don't think the doctors helped. I'm pretty sure its affected
me
> > also,
> > > especially the past few years. I'd have to say depression is best
> dealt
> > > from a spiritually/mental approach.
> > >
> > > I'd recommending looking into some books by the Dalai Lama, there are
> > some
> > > really good books. Basically he teaches that Suffering is
encountered
> by
> > > everyone (therefore it is both a fact of everyone's life) and that
its
> > every
> > > human's inherent right to achieve happiness and it is within all of
our
> > > grasps if we want it enough and are willing to act in a way which
will
> > bring
> > > us happiness. Basically happiness can be achieved through spiritual
> and
> > > mental exercises/frame of mind.
> > > I'm not a Buddhist par se, but I have found great comfort in those
> ideas
> > >
> > > I'd recommend this book as a starter
> > >
> >
>
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=1066831173/sr=8
>
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> 8>
> >
>
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> > 8>
> > > -1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance
> > >
> >
>
<http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/1573221112/qid=1066831173/sr=
> > > 8-1/ref=sr_8_1/102-7460743-2964960?v=glance&s=books&n=507846>
> > > &s=books&n=507846
> > >
> > > HTH and good luck
> > > Mark
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Bailey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 22 October 2003 14:48
> > > To: CF-Community
> > > Subject: Re: depression
> > >
> > >
> > > If you are asking if it is bad, then more then likely it is bad
enough.
> > > Have you talked to a DR?
> > >
> > > Robert Bailey
> > >
> > > Paul Ihrig wrote on 10/22/2003, 9:45 AM:
> > >
> > > > just curious if any one on the list has had it.
> > > >
> > > > i have always had it mildly. since i was 12 or so.
> > > > but was always some thing that seemed to be a layer to my
> personality.
> > > >
> > > > but lately i cant seem to shake this feeling of dread/hopelessness.
> > > > i am sure part of it is not working & self esteem.
> > > >
> > > > but how do you know when it is bad?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > _____
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > _____
> >
> >
> _____
>
>
>
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