And re: the immigration, when my wife's two sisters married men from Argentina and Russia, even we had to submit affadavits about the validity of their marriages before La Migra would issue green cards.
-Ben
>Again, how does this differ at all from traditional marriage?
>
>All the arguments I'm seeing apply equally.
>
>Jerry Johnson
>
>>>> [EMAIL PROTECTED] 11/18/03 11:42AM >>>
>What happens when a same-sex couple divorces? Who gets the child?
>Who pays alimony? WIll be be ok for any two people to get married
>just for the benefits? A couple of guys are roommates, one needs
>health insurance, the other has it so they get married. In the
>military, a person gets extra money to live off base when he/she gets
>married - will that apply to a couple of privates who don't want to
>live in the barracks? There are a lot of issues that this will
>confound.
>
>- Matt Small
>----- Original Message -----
>From: Haggerty, Mike
>To: CF-Community
>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:24 AM
>Subject: RE: You People
>
>
>I'm not sure this is guilt some much as my stupid-people sense
>kicking
>in. I mean, I'm not rapidly opposed to the idea, I can just see
>situations where it might be put to bad use.
>
>Soemthing strikes me as odd when two guys could watch the Red Sox play
>a
>1:00 game, get wasted on Schlitz, and end up at a county courthouse
>later that day with the full legal right to get married. That's not
>catholic guilt, that's a joke people were telling back in the 50s.
>
>Or a fraternity could use it as a hazing ritual, getting all the
>plebes
>married off to one another. I have seen this done in mock fashion, and
>I
>know people who would have made kids go all the way (and kids who
>would
>have).
>
>Or a gang thing where you have to prove how hardcore you are.
>
>Imagine if downtrodden men were marrying themselves off to help
>immigrants get citizenship. Panhandlers will beat themselves up with
>sticks for a $20, why not marriage?
>
>It just strikes me as running counter to the stated aims of the
>instituion of marriage, to bring social and financial stablity to a
>country. People could easily abuse this for short-term gain, amusement,
>
>status, etc. The bar would need to be set fairly high in order to
>avoid
>the problems that go along with it.
>
>M
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Heald, Tim [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:05 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: RE: You People
>
>>I blame the Liberals on this list for derailing my train of thought.
>>Nobody ever talk about same sex marriage again, it gives me the
>willies.
>
>That's just your catholic guilt reflex kicking in man. You'll get
>over
>it
>:)
>
>Tim
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Haggerty, Mike [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Sent: Tuesday, November 18, 2003 11:05 AM
>To: CF-Community
>Subject: You People
>
>I had something important I was going to respond to, where someone
>asked
>a question and didn't get a response. I had it all thought out and
>was
>getting ready to put it to email, when someone asked me something
>about
>stylesheets here in the office. I helped him out, then that thread
>about
>Massachusetts came up and I had to post something dumb.
>
>Now I can't remember what I was going to say, or who I was going to
>respond to. I looked through all the messages (handily sorted by
>Microsoft Outlook 2003, the best email editor there is or ever will
>be)
>and realized I cannot find what I was going to respond to.
>
...
>
>
>I blame the Liberals on this list for derailing my train of thought.
>Nobody ever talk about same sex marriage again, it gives me the
>willies.
>
>M
>_____
>
>
>
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