lol

I think the major fallout will be public awareness of the issue. People want
to know something ain't messed up with what they are eating. Blaming Canada
seems the way things are going. Scary really. Houston....we have a
problem....
  -----Original Message-----
  From: Schuster, Steven [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 30 December 2003 15:01
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: List of countries ban US beef imports..

  Why would I care anyway, I eat fish and rice and stuff that grows out of
the
  ground...and sometimes chicken...oh and sometimes baby lambs that they
don't
  allow to walk so the meat is so tender...(yeah right, NOT!)

  Also, look at it this way, our Fast Food Nation can take our overweight
  citizens and simply sit on your citizens and crush them with out fat
arses.
  We could them make a beef type haggis and beat you silly with them...beef
  would erupt from the beef style haggis because we used sub-par cow stomach
  linings to pack the beef-haggis. The polluted beef would then get into the
  Thames and pollute the entire nation with cancer...

  Ok, maybe not on second thought.

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  -----Original Message-----
  From: Adam Reynolds [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  Sent: 30 December 2003 11:48
  To: CF-Community
  Subject: RE: List of countries ban US beef imports..

  The UK did what it did to assure external markets. Not the internal
  markets.Same happened everywhere it was found. The export market is a
  key
  business.

  It tooks years before the ban was lifted.

  It sounds like the US has a long hard slog. In effect, each cow in the
  UK is
  given a 'passport' which goes with it everywhere.

  After reading 'fast food nation' you American's are going to have
  serious
  issues with this. I mean very long term issues. You will clinically have
  to
  prove that your beef industry has put in safety checks at each stage in
  the
  process to vet each animal and ensure it's pedigree.

  I love the fact your abetoires (sp?) have 'europe' days where you slow
  down
  beef processing as the standards are higher in Europe for beef
  processing
  and the beef would not be accepted.
    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: 26 December 2003 20:34
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: RE: List of countries ban US beef imports..

    I'm not completely convinced that the UK's solution was the only or
  the
  best
    solution.  It may be, but the problem was surrounding by more
  political
    posturing and knee-jerk reactions than science (as I'm sure it will be
  here
    as well).

    At the very least by doing that you've just created mountains and
  mountains
    of biohazard waste which has to be dealt with.  The beef industry here
  is
    enormously larger than the UK's - the same solution may not fit the
  same
    problem.

    Of course I don't know anything about it really.  I'm strictly a
  Sunday
    morning policy maker.

    Jim Davis

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    From: Angel Stewart [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
    Sent: Friday, December 26, 2003 3:20 PM
    To: CF-Community
    Subject: RE: List of countries ban US beef imports..

    The solution is just what the UK had to do. Slaughter all the animals
  in
    an infected herd if even one shows signs of the disease. Then track
  back
    and see where any cows from that herd went and slaughter those herds
    too...etc. etc.

    CHeck back previous news coverage of what happened in Europe and how
    they dealt with it to see what the US should be doing.

    -Gel

    -----Original Message-----
    From: Jim Davis [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

    Of course a ban on downed animals (which I generally agree with) would
    do
    very little to deal with this as the generally accepted cause of the
    disease
    has a very unpredictable dormancy phase.  Perfectly healthy seeming
    animals
    can be just as infectious as "downed" animals.

    I'm not sure what to do to solve this, but I'm concerned that
    reinstating
    the ban on downed animals could be seen as a "fix" for this issue when
    it's
    not.

    I wonder if stricter standards on the use of brain/nervous system
  tissue
    would help at all?

    Jim Davis

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