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> -----Original Message-----
> From: brobborb [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: 03 February 2004 16:59
> To: CF-Community
> Subject: Re: Re:Superbowl Half-time clip?
>
>
> bare breasts are considered sexual, but your mother's breasts
> are something different.  My mom walks around topless in the
> house (cos she gets hot alot of times).  Be it, here breasts
> are fugly, but thats not what comes to mind.  To me it's just
> like an arm or a leg or an ankle
>
> Also, when she is laying in bed and watching TV I would get
> in bed with her and snuggle up to her and have her play with
> my hair.  Something u would do with your grandma.  But the
> fact is that i'm 22 yrs old, my mom is 60 something.  I'll
> admit that from an outsider point of view thats a little
> weird/childish.  but I love my mom alot and i find it very
> comforting.  And i like my head being scratched haha.  Not
> that I'm a momma's boy or anything!  i just love my momma! heh
>
>
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: Ben Braver
>   To: CF-Community
>   Sent: Tuesday, February 03, 2004 2:40 PM
>   Subject: Re:Superbowl Half-time clip?
>
>
>   Dana,
>
>   I wonder if this is the problem.
>
>   You mentioned "source of milk is also a taboo".
>   Once weaned, babies don't have contact with breasts,
>   and they are hidden, becoming secondary genitalia
>   and thus objects of carnal desire.
>
>   So, any public display (except to a baby) is "wrong"
>   since it's normally something only exposed during sex.
>
>   But in the Tahitian (sp?) mind set, IIRC, women aren't
>   "turned on" by having their breasts fondled, since they
>   aren't considered "sexual". Whole different attitude.
>
>   Comments?
>
>   -Ben
>
>   > IIRC in Polynesian cultures, before the "Christian" missionaries
>   > arrived and messed with everybody's heads, women routinely went
>   > bare-breasted, and this was entirely normal. In fact,
> there was no
>   > titillation <no pun intended> from seeing them, since it wasn't
>   > "wrong".
>   > -Ben
>   >
>   >
>   > > I'm really sorry about your mother. The schizophrenia
> about women's
>   >
>   > > breasts is even worse than you suggest though,
> actually... Although
>   > it
>   > > is apparently ok to have much much cleavage in advertising and
>   > > television, the thing about source of milk is also a taboo, and
>   > > breast-feeding women have been arrested for refusing to
> do so in the
>   >
>   > > ladies' room (sitting on the toilet, presumably?) If I were a
>   > Freudian
>   > > I might attribute this to early weaning... as it is, I see the
>   > > conflicted thinking but I don't attempt to diagnose it.
> It exists in
>   >
>   > > women also, so it isn't just a guy thing.
>   > >
>   > > Dana
>   > >
>   > > >Yes, Sue's organization sponsored a play called the
> Strong Breast
>   > > Revolution
>   > > >which we went to see. The (female) players wore no
> tops. The idea
>   > > IIRC was
>   > > >that society has two main views of women's breasts: One as
>   > sexualized
>   > > and
>   > > >commidified and one as source of mother's milk. The
> play was about
>   >
>   > > allowing
>   > > >breasts to be seen in a third way which is a normal
> and beautiful
>   > > part of
>   > > >the body. It was great because it allowed for the
> women acting to
>   > > explore
>   > > >their feelings and experiences in depth and take you
> along for the
>   >
>   > > ride.
>   > > >Certainly brought out feelings about my own mother's
> death due to
>   > > breast
>   > > >cancer. Two taboos in one there eh? Death AND breasts!
>   > > >Patrick
>   > > >
>   > > >-----Original Message-----
>   > > >From: dana tierney
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >
>   > > >the play?
>   > > >
>   > > >>-----Original Message-----
>   > > >>From: dana tierney
>   > > >>
>   > > >>I think I will become a Breast Ambassador :)
>   > > >>
>   > > >>-ME--> :-) go for it!
>   > > >>
>   > > >>Though I could not identify the photograph on the
> main page. Very
>   >
>   > > Georgia
>   > > >>O'Keefe :) Make you wonder what that maple leaf is
> hiding... lol.
>   > > >>
>   > > >>-ME-->   :-)
>   > > >>
>   > > >>SHe does seem to be talking about the same thing I am though.
>   > > >>
>   > > >>-ME--> Yep. I wish you could have seen the play, it
> was very good.
>   >
>   > > Don't
>   > > >>forget to see Calendar Girls!
>   > > >>
>   > > >>Dana
>   > > >>
>   > > >>
>   > > >>Outbound email scanned for virus'.
>   > > >>
>   > > >
>   > > >
>
>
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