Johnny - just thought I'd give you a friendly warning/piece of advice: try not to compare DC with anywhere else in the world when it comes to the CF job market. It only frustrates people that don't live here. Yes - the market in DC is unreal... but that's unique to DC.
~Simon Simon Horwith CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal Member of Team Macromedia Macromedia Certified Master Instructor Blog - http://www.horwith.com Johnny Le wrote: >Where do you guys live? The job market is booming in DC. It is very easy to >find a CF job here. Not only that, many CF developers make DotNet salary. > >I am not sure if you should worry about cheap foreign labor. The cheap labor >is definitely attractive. I actually hired them on a bunch of projects >before, and now I rather pay extra for developers here. Off-shore developers >are actually coders and not developers. Their code is extremely messy. They >don't account for all the scenerios. Things don't tie together. Pages are all >over the place. They constantly reinvent the wheel. After using the >applications for a while, all applications started to fall apart. Now it >would take me a lot of time to figure out what's going on and try to fix it. > >Communication was also difficult. You can tell them things over and over >again, but they will always do the way they want to do it. They don't want to >collaborate with other teams. They always do their own things. > >So I think eventually all the companies will crawl back to us. Unless the >foreign coders become the real developers, but that also means their salary >will increase. So I think we will be safe. > >Johnny > > > >>Yeah, I've been there. I got laid from a 30 person (6 developer) >>company off at the end of August; I was a Sr. CF Programmer, lead UI >>guy, backup to the sysadmin and on alternating thursdays I played >>Banjo in the band. Turns out they were sold but hadn't made the news >>public, they were trying to make the balance sheet look as good as >>possible so they laid off some people. We did lots of high-volume CF >>stuff. It pissed me off; after 10 years in the industry, this was the >>first time I was the one being laid off. >> >>Fortunately, I'm realistic enough to be able to look at myself and ask >>realistic questions. Such as, "Would I hire a 45 year old me?" (I'm >>38 now). So, a couple of years ago I went back to work on an M.Ed. so >>that I could teach high school English. That's what I did to turn a >>depressing revelation (the answer to the question I asked myself) into >>a real plan that will take me for the next 30 years of this journey >>called "life". >> >>The downside is, I was unemployed for over 4 months. I only recently >>landed a job with a small company rewriting a critical internal app, >>which should be an 8 or 9 month project...at the end of the project, >>I'll be ready to student teach, and then I can segue into a new (and >>hopefully final, I can't see them offshoring teachers, and it's one of >>those few careers where age and experience is an asset) career. >> >>Anyway, yes, the state of the tech industry is depressing. I'm a tech >>guy, I love technology, I love building web sites. Fortunately, I >>also like planning ahead. There will always be offshoring, and soon >>enough, jobs will be being offshored from India to the next tech-savvy >>but cheap labor force. There will always be new buzzwords that the IT >>and development managers of the world will be chasing, believing them >>to be the next big thing. Me? I guess I've grown weary of it all. >> >>Good on ya', mate, for getting a new gig. They are definitely fewer >>and farther between. >> >>Pete >> >> > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Discover CFTicket - The leading ColdFusion Help Desk and Trouble Ticket application http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=48 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2206 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
