When I was looking for CF work just this past April or so, I got to the point of looking for out of town jobs. I would have been coming home maybe two weekends out of the month had I taken any of the ones I was looking at. I got lucky in finding a new contract here in town and even more so within the same corporation I have been doing contracts out at for four years now.
On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 12:14:02 -0500, Michael Dinowitz <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > When things were really bad in NY I seriously thought about doing weeks in > DC and home on the weekends. Judith really didn't like the idea. > > > Darn, guess I need to pack up my truck and move to DC then to avoid > > this frustration I now have ... > > > > > > On Fri, 21 Jan 2005 16:50:45 +0000, Simon Horwith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > wrote: > > > Johnny - just thought I'd give you a friendly warning/piece of advice: > > > try not to compare DC with anywhere else in the world when it comes to > > > the CF job market. It only frustrates people that don't live here. Yes > > > - the market in DC is unreal... but that's unique to DC. > > > > > > ~Simon > > > > > > Simon Horwith > > > CIO, AboutWeb - http://www.aboutweb.com > > > Editor-in-Chief, ColdFusion Developers Journal > > > Member of Team Macromedia > > > Macromedia Certified Master Instructor > > > Blog - http://www.horwith.com > > > > > > Johnny Le wrote: > > > > > > >Where do you guys live? The job market is booming in DC. It is very > > easy to find a CF job here. Not only that, many CF developers make DotNet > > salary. > > > > > > > >I am not sure if you should worry about cheap foreign labor. The cheap > > labor is definitely attractive. I actually hired them on a bunch of > > projects before, and now I rather pay extra for developers here. Off- > > shore developers are actually coders and not developers. Their code is > > extremely messy. They don't account for all the scenerios. Things don't > > tie together. Pages are all over the place. They constantly reinvent the > > wheel. After using the applications for a while, all applications started > > to fall apart. Now it would take me a lot of time to figure out what's > > going on and try to fix it. > > > > > > > >Communication was also difficult. You can tell them things over and > > over again, but they will always do the way they want to do it. They > > don't want to collaborate with other teams. They always do their own > > things. > > > > > > > >So I think eventually all the companies will crawl back to us. Unless > > the foreign coders become the real developers, but that also means their > > salary will increase. So I think we will be safe. > > > > > > > >Johnny > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >>Yeah, I've been there. I got laid from a 30 person (6 developer) > > > >>company off at the end of August; I was a Sr. CF Programmer, lead UI > > > >>guy, backup to the sysadmin and on alternating thursdays I played > > > >>Banjo in the band. Turns out they were sold but hadn't made the news > > > >>public, they were trying to make the balance sheet look as good as > > > >>possible so they laid off some people. We did lots of high-volume CF > > > >>stuff. It pissed me off; after 10 years in the industry, this was the > > > >>first time I was the one being laid off. > > > >> > > > >>Fortunately, I'm realistic enough to be able to look at myself and ask > > > >>realistic questions. Such as, "Would I hire a 45 year old me?" (I'm > > > >>38 now). So, a couple of years ago I went back to work on an M.Ed. so > > > >>that I could teach high school English. That's what I did to turn a > > > >>depressing revelation (the answer to the question I asked myself) into > > > >>a real plan that will take me for the next 30 years of this journey > > > >>called "life". > > > >> > > > >>The downside is, I was unemployed for over 4 months. I only recently > > > >>landed a job with a small company rewriting a critical internal app, > > > >>which should be an 8 or 9 month project...at the end of the project, > > > >>I'll be ready to student teach, and then I can segue into a new (and > > > >>hopefully final, I can't see them offshoring teachers, and it's one of > > > >>those few careers where age and experience is an asset) career. > > > >> > > > >>Anyway, yes, the state of the tech industry is depressing. I'm a tech > > > >>guy, I love technology, I love building web sites. Fortunately, I > > > >>also like planning ahead. There will always be offshoring, and soon > > > >>enough, jobs will be being offshored from India to the next tech-savvy > > > >>but cheap labor force. There will always be new buzzwords that the IT > > > >>and development managers of the world will be chasing, believing them > > > >>to be the next big thing. Me? I guess I've grown weary of it all. > > > >> > > > >>Good on ya', mate, for getting a new gig. They are definitely fewer > > > >>and farther between. > > > >> > > > >>Pete > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Logware: a new and convenient web-based time tracking application. Start tracking and documenting hours spent on a project or with a client with Logware today. Try it for free with a 15 day trial account. http://www.houseoffusion.com/banners/view.cfm?bannerid=67 Message: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=i:11:2210 Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/threads.cfm/11 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/lists.cfm/link=s:11 Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/unsubscribe.cfm?user=11502.10531.11 Donations & Support: http://www.houseoffusion.com/tiny.cfm/54
