If you are still wondering about this issue you should examine the 2
different style sheets used on the 2 different sites. I am sure there are a
lot of similar things in the sites, but not as blatant as the style sheets.
Frank Mangan, Web Developer
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
865-588-4054
865-604-4054
702-537-3869 (fax)
----- Original Message -----
From: "Michael Buffington" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Jobs" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 7:36 PM
Subject: RE: Senior Developer Available - FT. Lauderdale, FL
> Unbelievable!
>
> Michael, I stand behind you 100% on this. You got ripped.
>
> Ray - your attitude astounds me!
>
> <snip>
> Rest assure, that all of the graphics, layout, etc, where not cut and
paste.
> They were all uniquely created. The "contact" section just displays my
name,
> address, phone and email. How can that be done any different?
> </snip>
>
> I'm floored by this logic. Good thing I missed breakfast or I might be
> ralphing Cheerios.
>
> "..the 'contact' section just displays my name, address, phone and
email..."
> Yeah, it just displays it EXACTLY identical to Michael's. You may be the
> luckiest man alive. The odds of creating an identical copy out of the
blue
> are 1 in infinite.
>
> What makes me sick is that Ray didn't even copy the site correctly -
> Michael's spacing is consistent, the design is good, font weight is
> considered, colors are considered, but to someone like Ray who obviously
> couldn't design his way out of a wet paper bag, things like spacing and
> consistency are way beyond his comprehension.
>
> Michael - I'd suggest taking some action over this. It happens far too
> often, it's happened to me, and even though it's no longer happening to
me,
> it obviously still pisses me off.
>
> Ray - I feel for your future employer who will have to pay the copyright
> infringement legal bills.
>
> Employers - watch for these kinds of people. People who rip off other
> people will continue to rip other people off. I hired a CF programmer
long
> ago who claimed to know CF, when in reality, he'd cut and paste all his
code
> and, and have other people help him debug it. What a waste of resources!
> Needless to say he didn't last long.
>
> I'm done with my rant.
>
> Michael Buffington
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> (714) 556-3890 x222
> http://www.price.com
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Conger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:26 AM
> To: CF-Jobs
> Subject: RE: Senior Developer Available - FT. Lauderdale, FL
>
>
> Ray,
>
> I appreciate your apology and your willingness to come to an understanding
> on this.
> I regret any un-warranted display of my temper and hope you will accept my
> apology as well.
> I am glad this matter can be resolved and I wish you success in your job
> search.
>
> -Michael
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramon E. Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 12:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; 'CF-Jobs'
> Subject: RE: Senior Developer Available - FT. Lauderdale, FL
>
>
> Michael:
>
> I look at hundreds of web sites each week, and make mental notes of what I
> like and dislike. I just compare the sites as you suggested, and they are
> very similar. Therefore, I most of like your site when I saw it.
>
> Rest assure, that all of the graphics, layout, etc, where not cut and
paste.
> They were all uniquely created. The "contact" section just displays my
name,
> address, phone and email. How can that be done any different?
>
> As far as the post to the list, there are only so many ways to list ones
> qualifications, most professionals in this field will have similar
> qualifications, just the length of experience will vary. It was not my
> intent to "duplicate" yours, I sincerely apologize for it.
>
> The fact still remains, that my qualifications are very similar to yours.
> Sorry, I can't help that.
>
> I will soon be modifying my site so it does not look like yours.
>
> Regards, Ray.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Michael Conger [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 11:42 AM
> To: Ramon E. Fernandez; CF-Jobs
> Subject: RE: Senior Developer Available - FT. Lauderdale, FL
> Importance: High
>
>
> Dear Ray,
>
> Your post to this list, the list of your qualifications, and your website
> all look very nice. I couldn't have done better myself...
>
> Possibly this is because your post, your list of qualifications, and your
> website are all made up primarily of material you simply cut and pasted
from
> MY post of about a week ago, the list of qualifications from MY resume,
and
> all the layout and graphics from MY website.
>
> Please feel free to compare and contrast...
> http://www.michaelconger.com
> VS
> http://www.rayfernandez.com
> ..... The "resume" and "contact" sections of each site are particularly
good
> examples.
>
> Since federal and international copyright laws, basic standards of
> professional courtesy, and the great deal of time/thought/effort I put
into
> creating these things evidently do not apply and/or are of no consequence
to
> you...
>
> I thought it would be the least I could do to contact you and see if
there's
> anything else I can do for you... I have a nicely formated new resume that
I
> spent a couple weeks on if you're interested. Really, my time and effort
> aren't really worth much to me... if you'd care to capitalize on them in
any
> way in the future, please don't hesitate to do so.
>
> -Michael Conger
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> ps. Sorry for letting you know all of this on the list Ray... I just
> assumed that since you didn't bother to contact me personally about any of
> this, that this is your prefered method of contact.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ramon E. Fernandez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 10:41 AM
> To: CF-Jobs
> Subject: Senior Developer Available - FT. Lauderdale, FL
>
>
> I am a Senior ColdFusion developer actively seeking telecommute
> opportunities, contract or
> full-time employment in the FT. Lauderdale, Florida area.
>
> Highly skilled professional web developer, experienced in planning,
> designing, implementing, and managing internet/intranet/extranet/ecommerce
> projects on different scales, through all phases of development.
>
> Experience working both individually and as a team lead.
>
> Skills Brief:
>
> ColdFusion BrainBench Certified.
> Wide-ranging experience with ColdFusion (6yrs).
> Microsoft SQL server (4yrs).
> Oracle server (6mos).
> Excellent coding skills and comprehensive knowledge of CFML, WDDX and VB.
> Expert proficiency in HTML (6yrs), DHTML, CSS, and JavaScript (3 yrs).
> Working knowledge and growing proficiency in XML, ASP/VBscript, ActiveX,
> CGI/Perl.
> Expert knowledge of web design principles including page layout, GUI
design,
> and graphic design.
> Well versed on all major operating systems (workstation and server), web
> servers, and browsers.
>
> My resume, along with examples of my work, and contact information, can be
> found at my website:
> http://www.rayfernandez.com
>
> Please feel free to contact me at any time with questions or comments.
>
> Thank You!
>
> Ray Fernandez
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>
> --
>
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> Phone: (954) 975-4681 | will have the appearance of magic."
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