Thank you for the discussion and current status regarding 
sea_floor_depth_below_sea_surface as a new standard name. I have changed the 
subject line of this email to focus on the other names we discussed. I have 
also CCed our local water level expert (Andrea Hardy from NOAA CO-OPS); my 
replies are based on limited knowledge.

alison.pamm...@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
You have also suggested two further standard names:
water_level_with|above_reference_datum
water_level_without_reference_datum

For the latter name, Roy has suggested the term 'tide gauge zero' to
express the lack of reference datum.

I suppose you mean the latter name could be something like 
water_level_relative_to_tide_gauge_zero ?
I believe that at NOAA we use the term "station datum" to refer to measurements 
relative only to the station (which might be a tide gauge or not), so perhaps one of 
these would be better:

 water_level_relative_to_station_datum
 water_level_above_station_datum

I like the use of the word "above" because it indicates the sign of the value, 
but that's just a personal preference.

Am I correct in thinking that all these quantities are referring to
measurements in the open sea or coastal areas?  If so, I think we should
refer to sea_surface_height rather than water_level for consistency with
other names.

My understanding is that water level stations may be associated with rivers or the US 
Great Lakes, so "sea surface" would not be ideal.

I am wondering how many different reference datums there are likely to
be?  You mentioned low water and highest astronomical tide but are there
likely to be dozens of these quantities?  If there are only a few we
could consider introducing separate standard names for them

Possible datums include at least International Great Lakes Datum (IGLD), mean 
high water (MHW), mean lower low water (MLLW), mean sea level (MSL), and NAVD88.

I believe our preference would be *not* to include the datum name in the 
standard name, so that the user can request the datum of their choice.

Andrea: I see that on your server Station Datum is among the choices. Are you 
sure it wouldn't be better to have a single name like 
water_level_relative_to_datum, with station datum merely being one of the 
options?

Regarding the definitions, do both quantities average out the effects of waves?

I don't know. Andrea?

Regards to all from snowy Washington,
Jeff DLB


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