Hi Dom Actually, I think we really want:
http://cfconventions.org/something (We own cfconventions.org, so we can point it where we want!) And I would like in 2011 to have settled on a permanent answer to that question! Cheers Bryan > Thanks all, > > Interesting to see the new MMI ontology work. > I take from this discussion then that there is not currently a CF > 'blessed' method to reference a term? > > E.g. for air_temperature I can choose from any of these: > > http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/parameter/air_temperature > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/term/P071/16/CFSN0023 > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-ta > ble/16/cf-standard-name-table.html#air_temperature plus: > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name-ta > ble/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml > > > Cheers, > Dom > > On 14/12/10 08:18, Lowry, Roy K. wrote: > > Dear All, > > > > Working to find a way of harmonising the two sources of web-served > > Standard Names is on by ‘To-Do’ list for next year (part of an > > issue list fed into the NETMAR project by John G.) > > > > Cheers, Roy. > > > > *From:* cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu > > [mailto:cf-metadata-boun...@cgd.ucar.edu] *On Behalf Of *John > > Graybeal *Sent:* 13 December 2010 22:28 > > *To:* Benno Blumenthal > > *Cc:* cf-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu > > *Subject:* Re: [CF-metadata] Web reference to a standard name? > > > > A minor clarification as to how MMI is doing things: > > > > Benno, all, > > > > On Dec 13, 2010, at 07:25, Benno Blumenthal wrote: > > We have tried to get standard URIs for CF concepts, but the > > effort bogged down. > > > > As for standard names, MMI established a set of URIs at > > > > http://marinemetadata.org/cf > > > > but has not been keeping up to date. > > > > Thanks for the mention. This is our older URL, sorry; we are now > > maintaining CF standard names in our ontology repository, using > > resolvable URLs. [1] > > > > There was a period when MMI was not keeping up to date with CF > > changes, but in the recent past we have been continuously updating > > the SKOS ontology for the parameter names at the site Carlos > > mentioned [1] (We will forward the misleading /cf URL above, or > > fix it to make clear in some other way the current status; thanks > > for calling that out.) > > > > As with Roy's handling, we provide URLs both for the current > > version at the reference URL, and for individual releases of the > > vocabulary. > > > > John > > > > [1] http://mmisw.org/ont/cf/parameter > > > > > > > > I have written a XSL transform at > > > > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/xslt/.cfsn2rdf.xsl > > > > that can be applied to > > > > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name- > > table/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml > > > > to generate an up-to-date version, e.g. > > > > xsltproc > > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/xslt/.cfsn2rdf.xsl > > http://cf-pcmdi.llnl.gov/documents/cf-standard-names/standard-name > > -table/16/cf-standard-name-table.xml > > > > On the other hand, Roy has created opaque URIs for standard names > > at > > > > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P07/9 contains all the Standard > > Names that have ever been published, including names that have > > been aliased > > > > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/9 contains the Standard Names > > that are currently valid (i.e. those that have not been deprecated > > through aliasing) > > > > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/9 contains the Standard Names > > that have been deprecated through aliasing > > > > The mapping between deprecates and their replacement aliases my be > > obtained through the following API call > > > > http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/axis2/services/vocab/getMap?subjectList > > =http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/current&predicate=255&object > > List=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/current&inference=false > > <http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/axis2/services/vocab/getMap?subjectLi > > st=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P072/current&predicate=255&obje > > ctList=http://vocab.ndg.nerc.ac.uk/list/P071/current&inference=fals > > e> > > > > > > > > > > he changes them with each version, so it is both more definitive > > and harder to use. It is also pure SKOS, so one needs to add > > structure to actually connect it with a CF-described dataset. I > > plan to write out a map between the two, so that I can use his > > relationships between CF standard_names, but I do not have it yet. > > > > Additional information and ontologies describing the CF structure > > both as attributes and conceptually are available at > > http://iridl.ldeo.columbia.edu/ontologies/, including the > > connections between the standard_name ontologies and the CF > > structure. > > > > > > > > Benno > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 9:22 AM, Dominic Lowe > > <dominic.l...@stfc.ac.uk > > > > <mailto:dominic.l...@stfc.ac.uk>> wrote: > > > Hello all, > > > > > > What's the current CF recommended scheme for referencing a > > > standard > > > > name on > > > > > the web? (either by URL or URN). > > > > > > I know about the vocab server and the xml/html online versions > > > and could choose to use URLs to point to items in any of these > > > but is there a definitive pattern that should be used? (or at > > > least a best practice that should be encouraged?). > > > > > > Much appreciated, > > > > > > Dominic > > > -- > > > Scanned by iCritical. > > > _______________________________________________ > > > CF-metadata mailing list > > > CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu <mailto:CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> > > > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata > > > > -- > > Dr. M. Benno Blumenthal be...@iri.columbia.edu > > <mailto:be...@iri.columbia.edu> > > International Research Institute for climate and society > > The Earth Institute at Columbia University > > Lamont Campus, Palisades NY 10964-8000 (845) 680-4450 > > > > _______________________________________________ > > CF-metadata mailing list > > CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu <mailto:CF-metadata@cgd.ucar.edu> > > http://mailman.cgd.ucar.edu/mailman/listinfo/cf-metadata > > > > John Graybeal <mailto:jgrayb...@ucsd.edu> > > > > phone: 858-534-2162 > > > > System Development Manager > > > > Ocean Observatories Initiative Cyberinfrastructure Project: > > http://ci.oceanobservatories.org > > > > Marine Metadata Interoperability Project: http://marinemetadata.org > > > > > > -- > > This message (and any attachments) is for the recipient only. 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