Dear Paul,
I have no problems with inserting Header and Footer styles with HTML. The
problem is getting the CF output of products to display the way the client
desires.
i.e. There should be an output of only VANS items on one page. When you
click on VAN SEATS then for example, there should be a list of all Van seat
products in a column with either with or without a thumb nail. When you
click on the product, you get to a detail page with the shopping cart
function displayed.
On all pages the header and footer should be consistent, but I am having a
hell of a hard time getting Able Commerce to allow me to customize the CF
output of the products.
For example, I can't get one group displayed on a page by itself. I can get
all 3 groups - VANS, TRUCKS and SUVS
But then when you click on Van Seats for example, you see 2 products and
for the result you have to click a next button. that's ridiculous and when
you try to change the format, lo and behold, theres no way to get into the
templates. As you can see, after two weeks I am totally fed up with this so
called solution, but if you have any workable ideas I'm still willing to
give it a shot.
Thanks
Pardee.
At 09:52 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
>You use the 'Styles' to set, say a group. So the first step would be to
>design a style for your group. In the style you may insert any HTML code at
>various points. So, for example design your trucks header with photo etc and
>insert it into a style as header one - in the wizard for the group select
>the style you have just designed and turn of all navigation options etc.
>In the style also decide on colours etc for the background.
>here is a site with thousands of able commerce pages - I have used a Java
>navigation applet in the right hand frame to be able to navigate to any
>counter - I call their 3 levels, Department, counter and product - rather
>than use their terminology. The counters on this site only take minutes to
>design in able commerce.
>http://www.fishtec.co.uk
>Kind regards
>
>
>Paul Burgess
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 8:52 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: RE: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and hence useless?
> >
> >
> > Dear Paul,
> >
> > I tried this with medium and large sized store. Unfortunately the
> > templates
> > don't allow you to go in and customize them to look exactly as you want.
> > The output is nowhere near what the client is looking for. Normally in
> > other programs you can go into the code and do this, but in Able
> > Commerce,
> > when you're using a wizard you're apparently not able to get into the
> > source code. Try to get into the underlying CFM file and you find
> > that its
> > encrypted. Any ideas? Thanks for the feedback.
> >
> > At 01:38 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > >1. You can achieve exactly that in Able Commmerce.
> > >Choose a large store option and you have three levels.
> > >Top level - create categories vans, trucks and suvs.
> > >Now create groups within each of those ie ford trucks, nissan trucks etc.
> > >Now create products within the groups.
> > >
> > >For each group, go to the style for that group and simply enter up your
> > >photo etc to show just what you are asking for.
> > >
> > >You must have set it up wrong if you are not achieving this - what demo
> > >store did you copy? You need at least a medium size store for
> > what you wish
> > >to achieve.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >Paul Burgess
> > >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 1:18 PM
> > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > Subject: RE: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and hence useless?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a site with 3 categories:
> > > >
> > > > 1. VANS
> > > > 2. TRUCKS
> > > > 3. SUVS
> > > >
> > > > So what I need to do is have three tabs on the home page, each
> > > > tab going to
> > > > a page that has the group listings of each category on the next
> > > > page. So if
> > > > a visitor clicks on VANS, they go to a page with a nice
> > picture of a van
> > > > and a listing of all VAN products. When they click on a product,
> > > > they see a
> > > > display, etc. This I have not been able to accomplish with Able
> > > > Commerce's
> > > > so called wizards.
> > > >
> > > > Next, I need to change the icons, that I agree is not such a big
> > > > deal but I
> > > > was amazed that they would have enough courage to ship their
> > product with
> > > > such an ugly set. A real montrosity, I share this to vent my
> > frustration
> > > > with the user-unfriendliness of the product. I couldn't even
> > get one page
> > > > to list all 3 categories in a table with 3 rows.
> > > >
> > > > And finally to add insult to injury, when someone clicks on SEATS as a
> > > > group listing, on the next page, instead of seeing a listing
> > of all seats
> > > > one after another vertically in a column, the visitor is expected
> > > > to click
> > > > on an ugly NEXT button to see the next one. No thumbnails,
> > highly arcane
> > > > looking navigation system created by their templates/wizards with
> > > > graphics
> > > > hit hard by an ugly stick. Not only is the program not easy
> > to use, the
> > > > resulting PREVIEWS look so bad due to the layout/ugly icons,
> > I dare not
> > > > show them to my client.
> > > >
> > > > At 01:19 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > >I do not understand - you can change all the icons in any
> > version of Able
> > > > >Commerce. I agree they do not supply an icon library but there
> > > > are so many
> > > > >of those anway. Can you be more specific about what you cannot easily
> > > > >customise. I have no commercial interest in Able just want
> > to see a fair
> > > > >representation of the product.
> > > > >
> > > > >Paul Burgess
> > > > >
> > > > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, April 16, 2000 12:57 PM
> > > > > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > > > > Subject: Re: Is Able Commerce truly user-unfriendly and
> > hence useless?
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Dear Adrian,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Try to customize the look and feel of your pages and then let me
> > > > > > know if I
> > > > > > am being unfair. The basic look created by Able Commerce is
> > > > so ugly there
> > > > > > should be a law against it. In fact I'm writing my Senator
> > > > about it right
> > > > > > now - i.e. abolish any net tax incentives but do enact a web site
> > > > > > ugliness
> > > > > > law to incentivise the folks at Able Commerce to come up with
> > > > > > some at least
> > > > > > half way decent looking icons instead of those hit hard with an
> > > > > > ugly stick.
> > > > > > We want visitors to stay on a site, not run away from it due to
> > > > > > torture to
> > > > > > the eyeballs. I would write to Clinton but hes no doubt
> > > > sidetracked with
> > > > > > some intern:)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Bottom line is this is a totally frustrating piece of
> > > > software, there has
> > > > > > to be something out there thats more user friendly. I've
> > tackled more
> > > > > > complex jobs than a mere shopping cart deal in the past,
> > but this Able
> > > > > > Commerce is unfortunately despite a GUI admin very user
> > > > > > unfriendly. Again,
> > > > > > appreciate any help as far as a ref to a workable program.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Regards,
> > > > > > Pardee.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > At 12:54 PM 4/16/2000 +0100, you wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > The basic look made by Able Commerce is so ugly that the
> > > > > > resulting pages
> > > > > > > > make one desire to throw up.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I think you are being somewhat unfair to Able Commerce from my
> > > > > > experimentation
> > > > > > >with it :-) But as I don't use the program yet in
> > production, perhaps
> > > > > > >others who
> > > > > > >do could address your concerns.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >While I am here - I need recommendations for CF based eCommerce
> > > > > > system, which
> > > > > > >will enable full online order tracking by shoppers - Amazon
> > > > > > style etc.. Any
> > > > > > >recommendations?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >I also have a client who wants an auction system (the
> > > > customer is always
> > > > > > >right) - what is the best CF based auction system out there?
> > > > > > Emaze looks
> > > > > > >good -
> > > > > > >anyone used it?
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Thanks.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >Adrian Cooper.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
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