They give no further instructions on setting up testing. Is anyone out there Allaire
ColdFusion Certified?
Or is it just a marketing technique? If you certify your product, there should be
links to certification testers in qualified city CF training providers. Doesn't this
seem like the
logical way Allaire should really promote their certification? If it exists!
KM
Don Bellamy wrote:
> Howard,
>
> I just read the page you are referring to, and it doesn't say that Allaire
> is requiring "2 years of high-level programming experience" and "Experience
> with enterprise-level databases". That is just what they suggest you have.
> >From what I see, if you can pass the 65 question exam, you will be
> certified. Don't worry about anything else, just take the exam when it is
> available.
>
> ---
> Don Bellamy
> SiteObjects, Inc.
> http://www.siteobjects.com/
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> tel (517) 324-4227 ext 100
> fax (517) 324-4267
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Owens, Howard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2000 5:35 PM
> To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'
> Subject: Allaire Certificate Program
>
> I tried to post these comments yesterday, but they don't seem to have gone
> through, so I'll try again ...
>
> (FWIW: This is a copy of a note I just sent to Allaire)
>
> I was just looking at the page on the proposed certificate program and I
> have some questions ...
>
> * 2 years of high-level programming experience
> (Please define this ... and why? )
>
> * Experience with enterprise-level databases
> What's wrong with Access?
>
> The reason I ask these questions are ... I've been working with Cold Fusion
> for nearly 18 months (at least). I've become fairly proficient at it. Good
> enough to teach a class in beginning CF at a local continuation college. I
> believe I'm very good with CFML and even though there is still much to
> learn, I'm confident I can tackle just about any programming task CFML is
> able to handle. I believe I'm good enough to be certified (or will be with
> only a little more study and practice), but I'm never going to have
> "high-level programming" experience, if by that you mean Java and/or C++. I
> shouldn't say never, but I just don't see myself being able to meet that
> requirement any time soon (which, economically, would be a necessity once
> certification is in place).
>
> As for "enterprise-level" databases. I assume Access doesn't qualify. But
> for just about everything I do, anything else would be overkill. I have yet
> to see any need to recommend to a client (or my employer -- I am both an
> employee of a company and an independent developer) anything other than
> Access. It can handle any small to medium Web site's needs and I don't see
> myself moving beyond developing for small businesses and less than
> mega-traffic Web sites. It's just more cost effective to stick with Access,
> even though with my present employer I have free and easy access to Oracle
> on Unix.
>
> To me, you're setting the bar too high for certification. I'm sure I'm not
> too far off in background and qualifications of your average CF customer.
> I'm a non-programmer who needed a quick and easy way to Web-enable a
> database one day and I stumbled into CF. As I became more familiar with CF,
> the more enamoured of it I became and the more I studied and practiced and
> the better I got. I can use every CFML tag, am fairly proficient with most
> CF expressions, am able to optimize code and write fairly sophisticated
> applications. The beauty of CF is that is both easy and high powered. To
> exclude those of us who are just plain proficient at CF, but still not
> "real" programmers, from certification strikes me as very unfair and misses
> the core reason CF has been successful. If I'm not able to get certified it
> could be economically damaging and that would be unfair.
>
> It seems to me that being certified in CF should be about CF and not what
> you know of any other programming language. It should be about using CF to
> its best and highest level, but it still shouldn't matter what database
> solution you use.
>
> Now, I wouldn't be opposed to two levels of certification -- maybe a
> Certified Professional for all the high level stuff and Certified Developer
> for people who are just damn good in CF. But to exclude those of us who
> aren't "real" programmers seems to run counter to what CF is about.
>
> H.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Raymond K. Camden [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Monday, April 24, 2000 12:29 PM
> > To: CFTALK
> > Subject: Information on Allaire.com about certification
> >
> > I thought some of you mind find this interesting:
> >
> > http://www.allaire.com/handlers/index.cfm?ID=15376&Method=Full&Title=Allai
> > re
> > %20Certified%20Professional%20Program%20Preview&Cache=False
> >
> > It's information about the Allaire Certified Professional Program. Enjoy.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> =========================
> Howard Owens
> Web Producer
> InsideVC.com
> mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> =========================
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
> --
> Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk
> To Unsubscribe visit
> http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or
> send a message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in
> the body.
>
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------------
> Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk
> To Unsubscribe visit
>http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a
>message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Archives: http://www.eGroups.com/list/cf-talk
To Unsubscribe visit
http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk or send a
message to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with 'unsubscribe' in the body.
