I think you are missing his point, it isn't really a matter of web shops,
but more of ambition and wisdom combined .. If you want to get into the
bathroom fixtures business and work at McDonalds to support yourself while
building your clientile and your bathroom fixture business, then that is
what you have to do.  I would venture to say that there are a GREAT many
people, maybe even more than the 'norm' that do it this way.

I deal with folks everyday that are currently working somewhere, while
building something else that they eventually want to do full time.

Don't just limit your thinking to the techno world, hard work, dedication,
wisdom and alittle good common sense can help you obtain your dreams no
matter what field.

Paul Giesenhagen
QuillDesign


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matt Liotta" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "CF-Talk" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 4:00 PM
Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground


> That's a wonderful story, but that just isn't the norm. Sure tons of web
> shops got started that way, but it all happened during a boom. The boom
> is over.
>
> Matt Liotta
> President & CEO
> Montara Software, Inc.
> http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> V: 415-577-8070
> F: 415-341-8906
> P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Mark A. Kruger - CFG [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 1:54 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> >
> > Matt,
> >
> > This is a myth and belies ambition. I started my company by working
> part
> > time at a regular company doing development, and doing contract work
> on
> > the
> > side for a year and a 1/2, building up clientele - by the time I quite
> my
> > regular job I had fully replaced it's income and then some. I also had
> a
> > solid base to launch my company full time, as well as an excellent
> pool of
> > capital - and it's gone gangbusters ever since. It just depends on who
> you
> > are and where you are at in life. There's living by faith - and then
> > there's
> > wisdom.  You need a balance of both to be well-rounded.
> >
> > -mk
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Matt Liotta [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 2:28 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: RE: Getting a business off the ground
> >
> >
> > The big thing is that you have to jump all the way in. You can't start
> a
> > company moonlighting while you work somewhere else. If you can't bet
> > your livelihood on your business then you can't really expect anyone
> > else to either.
> >
> > Matt Liotta
> > President & CEO
> > Montara Software, Inc.
> > http://www.montarasoftware.com/
> > V: 415-577-8070
> > F: 415-341-8906
> > P: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Robert Everland [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > > Sent: Thursday, September 05, 2002 11:53 AM
> > > To: CF-Talk
> > > Subject: OT: Getting a business off the ground
> > >
> > > I have started my own company a while ago and am hitting a brick
> wall
> > on
> > > how
> > > to get it off the ground. It's hard to do absolutely everything
> > myself, so
> > > I
> > > throw this out to some of you that have your own company. What did
> you
> > do?
> > > Did you start with money? Hire people? Do everything yourself? Have
> a
> > kick
> > > ass product that got you off the ground? Cold called people? Sent
> out
> > a
> > > mailing? What did you do? I have an application I made that is
> pretty
> > > polished and am just looking for ideas on how to get this thing out
> > the
> > > door
> > > to people as either a service or as a stand alone app people can
> buy.
> > WHAT
> > > DO I DO!!!!!! Anyways, sorry for the OT, flame away, but I figure
> > there
> > > has
> > > to be a couple other people that could benefit from this discussion,
> > let
> > > me
> > > know if this needs to move over to cf-community so I can sign up for
> > it.
> > >
> > > Robert Everland III
> > > Web Developer Extraordinaire
> > > Dixon Ticonderoga Company
> > > http://www.dixonusa.com
> > >
> >
> >
> 
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