> "I just don't see the need for a url like: > http://www.metlife.com/Applications/Corporate/WPS/CDA/Page > Generator/0,1674,P > 249,00.html"
> Just for your information, Vignette use > "0,1674,P249,00.html" URL format for > caching purpose. > The name of the file contains all the parameters used to > generate content > for a given template : 0 means that cache can be used > (dynamic generation is not forced), 1674 is the template ID, > P249 is the parameter (could be a parameters list) Parameters for a static file? Or does vignette use .html as an extension for an ISAPI filter? >, 00 describes browser capabilities. So the 1674 part is the only part of all that which is actually useful eh? :) > It allow Vignette to automatically generate physical cache > files that can later be serve directly by the web server. > Once the cache has been generated, the dynamic web site > behave like a static web site, the web server only serves > static html pages. Yes, Tapestry does this... or it can if you need/want it to -- it's not a necessity. But it is a native feature of the application. > This is a pretty clever caching system which made the > success of Vignette .. 5 years ago (and this is how > Vignette handles tremendous loads). If you say so, but I'm fairly certain Vignette doesn't do anything with that url than I can't do with a 4 or 5 digit number. As a matter of fact, I'd be willing to bet that much of this is already done by Tapestry -- the caching that is... > So OK, the URL aren't very URL friendly, but I don't think > that URL have to be "friendly". User never look at the > URLs, only web developers do.. ;) Did you get a chance to read my first message on this thread? Real non-developer people frequently look at those url's, and often have to give them to people over the phone, which is a major pain... Sounds like you've never worked in a tech-support queue -- as just one example of an instance in which non-developer people must frequently pass a url verbally. I worked in Hewlett Packard's corporate tech-support queue for a year ( was actually my first technical job ), and the fact that their corporate website where people had to get drivers was a nightmare to navigate was a _huge_ problem. They didn't use Vignette, but something like what you see below was a _common_ occurrance on the phone. And this was even talking mostly to IT and MIS department techs whos job it was to repair our workstations. > Try giving someone a url like that verbally -- ever worked > technical support where you had to give someone a url > over the phone so they could download a driver? Usually > you're saddled by the requirements of your call center that > you can't send anyone email, so copying and pasting the > url is out of the question. And even with url's that are much > simpler than this you often wind up with users having > difficulty hearing or understanding it: > > http://www.metlife.com/applications/corporate/wps ... > . w - p as in paul - s as in sam ... slash > . c as in cat, d as in dog, a as in apple... > > PageGenerator ... p as in paul, a as in apple, g as in > golf, e as in echo... > > Ten minutes later they have the url and your average > call-time's gone through the roof. > > God forbid the person is hard of hearing or just plain > computer illiterate. Generally speaking I think it's foolish to assume that non-technical people will never do or need to do something when it regards your software -- especially when it's something as necessary and readily available as a URL. Users will do what they need to in order to accomplish anything that's really important ( in the case of the tech-support person, it's their job to make sure that people can get the drivers they need, etc. ) but we don't need to go out of our way to make things complicated for them. Isaac Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer www.turnkey.to 954-776-0046 ______________________________________________________________________ Structure your ColdFusion code with Fusebox. Get the official book at http://www.fusionauthority.com/bkinfo.cfm FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq Archives: http://www.mail-archive.com/cf-talk@houseoffusion.com/ Unsubscribe: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists