Would you mind expanding on why it is disrespectful? This is a mailing
list for the discussion of technical issues relating to CFML. I don't
see why alternative implementations of CFML should have any less right
to be discussed here. I personally think it is great that we now have
another vendor in the CFML space. Competition is supposed to be good
right?

Matt Liotta
President & CEO
Montara Software, Inc.
http://www.montarasoftware.com/
888-408-0900 x901

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 4:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
> 
> I think this post is VERY disrespectful on the CF Talk list.  Most of
us
> are
> aware of Blue Dragon and should we wish to use will do so.
> 
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> AIM - webappermb
> 
> "Webapper - Making the NET work"
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:56 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
> 
> 
> Greg,
> 
> This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but you should be aware
of
> BlueDragon/J2EE, which offers the following advantages over CFMX/J2EE:
> 
>   - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages onto any standard J2EE
> application server; CFMX supports only a limited number of J2EE
servers.
> Most significantly, BlueDragon supports BEA WebLogic and CFMX does not
> (New Atlanta, the creator of BlueDragon, is a BEA Star Partner).
Support
> for CFMX on WebLogic is "planned for a future release."
> 
>   - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within a standard J2EE
> Web Archive (WAR) file; CFMX does not.
> 
>   - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within multiple
> independent web applications; CFMX requires that you deploy all of
your
> CFML pages within a single web application.
> 
> You can find out more about BlueDragon/J2EE on New Atlanta's web site:
> 
>    http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Vince Bonfanti
> New Atlanta Communications, LLC
> http://www.newatlanta.com
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Greg McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:08 PM
> > To: CF-Talk
> > Subject: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
> >
> >
> > Can anyone answer or point me to a resource about the questions
below?
> >
> > How does the CFMX for J2EE run on a J2EE platform?
> > Is there a CF stub that has to be installed in a
> > J2EE Server that allows it to interpret CFMX or
> > does CFMX produce compiled byte code that
> > can run on the targeted hosting environment?
> >
> > If CFMX J2EE is a plugin of some kind on a J2EE server, How
> > do they slice up the licensing:  Is it per CPU? Per server?
> > What about clustering?
> >
> > Developer Licenses I guess are tied to the CFMX Studio, but
> > what if you want to develop off of a central server and
> > you've purchased "Production" licenses, do they allow you to
> > develop off of the same license on a different machine?
> >
> > I haven't found any white papers detailing how the CFMX J2EE
> > product is implemented on the host.  My customer is in the
> > middle of Architecting their new environment and the purists
> > don't want to put CF products in their J2EE environment.
> >
> > My client is trying to lower their total cost of ownership by
> > dumping CF and going to a pure J2EE environment.
> >
> >
> >
> > Greg McDaniel
> >
> >
> 
> 
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