I disagree. I like to hear about other ways to "do" CFML, particularly in the J2EE 
arena.

And Vince Bonfanti, of Blue Dragon fame, gave an excellent and informative talk on CF 
& J2EE for the Maryland CFUG. 
http://www.cfug-md.org/talks/deploying_cfml_j2ee_servers.ppt
http://www.cfug-md.org/meetings.cfm

Yes, he's promoting Blue Dragon, but the talk helped me a lot with just basics of CF & 
J2EE.  Since some of us are fighting the "why keep CF if JSP is the future" battle and 
we can use all the info we can get!

Chris Norloff


---------- Original Message ----------------------------------
from: "Mike Brunt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
date: Fri, 11 Oct 2002 13:22:54 -0700

>I think this post is VERY disrespectful on the CF Talk list.  Most of us are
>aware of Blue Dragon and should we wish to use will do so.
>
>Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
>Webapper
>http://www.webapper.com
>Downey CA Office
>562.243.6255
>AIM - webappermb
>
>"Webapper - Making the NET work"
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Vince Bonfanti [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 12:56 PM
>To: CF-Talk
>Subject: RE: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
>
>
>Greg,
>
>This isn't a direct answer to your questions, but you should be aware of
>BlueDragon/J2EE, which offers the following advantages over CFMX/J2EE:
>
>  - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages onto any standard J2EE
>application server; CFMX supports only a limited number of J2EE servers.
>Most significantly, BlueDragon supports BEA WebLogic and CFMX does not
>(New Atlanta, the creator of BlueDragon, is a BEA Star Partner). Support
>for CFMX on WebLogic is "planned for a future release."
>
>  - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within a standard J2EE
>Web Archive (WAR) file; CFMX does not.
>
>  - BlueDragon allows you to deploy CFML pages within multiple
>independent web applications; CFMX requires that you deploy all of your
>CFML pages within a single web application.
>
>You can find out more about BlueDragon/J2EE on New Atlanta's web site:
>
>   http://www.newatlanta.com/products/bluedragon/index.cfm
>
>Regards,
>
>Vince Bonfanti
>New Atlanta Communications, LLC
>http://www.newatlanta.com
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Greg McDaniel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
>> Sent: Friday, October 11, 2002 3:08 PM
>> To: CF-Talk
>> Subject: How is CFMX J2EE implemented?
>>
>>
>> Can anyone answer or point me to a resource about the questions below?
>>
>> How does the CFMX for J2EE run on a J2EE platform?
>> Is there a CF stub that has to be installed in a
>> J2EE Server that allows it to interpret CFMX or
>> does CFMX produce compiled byte code that
>> can run on the targeted hosting environment?
>>
>> If CFMX J2EE is a plugin of some kind on a J2EE server, How
>> do they slice up the licensing:  Is it per CPU? Per server?
>> What about clustering?
>>
>> Developer Licenses I guess are tied to the CFMX Studio, but
>> what if you want to develop off of a central server and
>> you've purchased "Production" licenses, do they allow you to
>> develop off of the same license on a different machine?
>>
>> I haven't found any white papers detailing how the CFMX J2EE
>> product is implemented on the host.  My customer is in the
>> middle of Architecting their new environment and the purists
>> don't want to put CF products in their J2EE environment.
>>
>> My client is trying to lower their total cost of ownership by
>> dumping CF and going to a pure J2EE environment.
>>
>>
>>
>> Greg McDaniel
>>
>>
>
>
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