Isaac,
Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own server
with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this with half a dozen
apps.
Greg
-----Original Message-----
From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:01 PM
To: CF-Talk
Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
ColdFusion?
You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people " all my work is
behind
someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it
be
impressive!" ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume this way?
S. Isaac Dealey
Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer
www.turnkey.to
954-776-0046
> Agreed, there are several sites I have built that no one outside the
> client will ever see. This makes it difficult to create a portfolio,
but
> I'm sure there are as many "hidden" sites in CF as there are public
> sites, if not more.
> Joshua Miller
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for
> ColdFusion?
> Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF
that
> can never be viewed from the public Internet. We are working on three
> major ones at present, two for Sempra Energy and one for Ernst and
> Young. These are large applications being created to replace legacy
> ones. I am sure there must be other such things going on out there.
> Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO
> Webapper
> http://www.webapper.com
> Downey CA Office
> 562.243.6255
> AIM - webappermb
> "Webapper - Making the NET work"
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:25 PM
> To: CF-Talk
> Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion?
>>The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this
> on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this.
> Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is
> around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're
> really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall
> installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial
list
> of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/
> Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world,
> the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following
> are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me:
> http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/
> http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid&languageid=1
> http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre
> http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some
> just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com
> We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and
> are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us
when
> they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of
> too!
> In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding
the
> CF
> market:
> *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as
> makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the
benefits
> of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD)
offered
> by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the
> Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or
> their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release
of
> CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will
> enjoy this huge leap forward.
> *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them
> be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings:
> www.macromedia.com/desdev
> *We're tappiing into new markets for CF:
> -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to
> CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to
CF
> readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities.
> -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not
> trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers.
> Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are
> moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in
droves.
> Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its
built
> in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter
> learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for
> these new application developers.
> *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work
> more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering "one-stop"
> shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we
can
> deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those
> who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked
to
> remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most)
of
> these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms.
> Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of
everything
> we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas
> as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional
> technologies & skills into their shops.
> It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and
> fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are
> not mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, and
> another is fortcoming.
> Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. Yes,
> there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some of
the
> more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to and
> incorporate to the community's feedback, while we continue to
innovate.
> Unfortunately, sometimes we can't talk about everything happening,
even
> in the face of
> (emerging) competition. But that shouldn't be misread as an indication
> that nothing is happening behind the scenes.
> I personally think the economy has stifled some of the payoff from
> Macromedia's efforts, it's stifled just about everything involving
> economics! But eventually you will start to see these efforts start to
> pay off for ColdFusion and CF developers.
> Nay-sayers can say spout gloom and doom if they will, but CF is on the
> way up. We're just gettin' started!
> Vernon Viehe
> ColdFusion Community Manager
> Developer Relations
> Macromedia, Inc.
> Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/
> --------------------
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> www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002
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