Because the application does not belong to Isaac, it belongs to his previous employer.
-- Mosh Teitelbaum evoch, LLC Tel: (301) 625-9191 Fax: (301) 933-3651 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] WWW: http://www.evoch.com/ > -----Original Message----- > From: Greg Luce [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 6:40 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > ColdFusion? > > > Isaac, > Why can't you put a copy of the application on your own server > with test data and use it for a resume? I've done this with half a dozen > apps. > > Greg > > -----Original Message----- > From: S. Isaac Dealey [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 3:01 PM > To: CF-Talk > Subject: RE: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > ColdFusion? > > You're telling me... Man I'm tired of telling people " all my work is > behind > someone else's corporate firewall, but if you could see it, boy would it > be > impressive!" ... wtf? How am I supposed to write a resume this way? > > > S. Isaac Dealey > Certified Advanced ColdFusion 5 Developer > > www.turnkey.to > 954-776-0046 > > > Agreed, there are several sites I have built that no one outside the > > client will ever see. This makes it difficult to create a portfolio, > but > > I'm sure there are as many "hidden" sites in CF as there are public > > sites, if not more. > > > Joshua Miller > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Mike Brunt [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Wednesday, October 16, 2002 1:23 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: The Hidden CF factor was RE: How Good is the Job Market for > > ColdFusion? > > > > Vernon, there are probably many internal apps being developed on CF > that > > can never be viewed from the public Internet. We are working on three > > major ones at present, two for Sempra Energy and one for Ernst and > > Young. These are large applications being created to replace legacy > > ones. I am sure there must be other such things going on out there. > > > Kind Regards - Mike Brunt, CTO > > Webapper > > http://www.webapper.com > > Downey CA Office > > 562.243.6255 > > AIM - webappermb > > > "Webapper - Making the NET work" > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Vernon Viehe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2002 4:25 PM > > To: CF-Talk > > Subject: RE: How Good is the Job Market for ColdFusion? > > > >>The enterprise penetration of MX has been weak. MM would blame this > > on the marketplace, but I'm not sold on this. > > > Server version upgrade cycles in the enterprise app-server space is > > around 12 months, according to those I've discussed it with. We're > > really only about halfway through the cycle at this time. The overall > > installed CF base is pretty healthy, and growing. Here's a partial > list > > of existing CF sites we use for PR/marketing: > > http://www.macromedia.com/software/coldfusion/proven/ > > > Even considering the upgrade cycle in the enterprise app-server world, > > the list of CFMX enterprise sites is growing every day. The following > > are a few of the CFMX sites recently sent to me: > > > http://www.ecoprimalquest.com/ > > http://www.logitech.com/index.cfm?countryid&languageid=1 > > http://www.panasonic.com.au/hometheatre > > http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/ (some CF, some dynamic Flash content, some > > just plain HTML) http://www.reservations.broadmoor.com > > > We know a lot of enterprise-level customers have upgraded to CFMX and > > are in the upgrade cycle - but they don't always report back to us > when > > they go live with CFMX, so feel free to send me sites that you know of > > too! > > > In addition to this stuff, consider the ways Macromedia is expanding > the > > CF > > market: > > > *Ground-up rewrite in Java: This expands CF capabilities, as well as > > makes CF an option to the enterprise-level sites which want the > benefits > > of deploying on a the Java platform and the rapid app dev (RAD) > offered > > by CF. It also means current CF customers have a way to move up to the > > Java platform without requiring they abandon their existing apps (or > > their CF developers). Admittedly, this has been a challenging release > of > > CF for some, but once the dust settles, CF and the CF community will > > enjoy this huge leap forward. > > > *We're working to deliver the information developers need to help them > > be successful with ColdFusion and our other technology offerings: > > www.macromedia.com/desdev > > > *We're tappiing into new markets for CF: > > > -With Flash remoting, the HUGE Flash community is getting turned on to > > CF. While one can purchase Flash remoting for ASP, Flashers taking to > CF > > readily because of it's shorter learning curve and RAD capabilities. > > > -Dreamweaver users: OK, before you pile on me about this one, I'm not > > trying to debate the CFStudio/HS+ vs. Dreamweaver issue for CFers. > > Dreamweaver is ~80% of the HTML editor market, and these folks are > > moving into the dynamic application/web app development space in > droves. > > Dreamweaver MX makes their entry into the CF arena a snap with its > built > > in server behaviors that cover the most basic stuff, and CF's shorter > > learning curve and tagged based syntax makes CF a very attractive for > > these new application developers. > > > *We've delivered innovative products that are more integrated and work > > more smoothly with each other than ever before, offering "one-stop" > > shopping for industry leading technologies. This also means that we > can > > deliver well integrated technologies, and better information for those > > who are integrating these various technologies. But we've also worked > to > > remain somewhat agnostic with many of these innovations; many (most) > of > > these innovations integrate with 3rd party products/platforms. > > > Individually, one may not be positioned to take advantage of > everything > > we offer surrounding CF, but we see businesses moving into these areas > > as they begin to plan and implement new projects, and bring additional > > technologies & skills into their shops. > > > It's been said Macromedia should concentrate on CF improvements and > > fixes and forget everything else, but our efforts across the board are > > not mutually exclusive. We've already released one CFMX updater, and > > another is fortcoming. > > > Macromedia is fully behind ColdFusion and ColdFusion developers. Yes, > > there is definately room for improvement, as is evidenced by some of > the > > more lively discussion on this list recently. But we do listen to and > > incorporate to the community's feedback, while we continue to > innovate. > > Unfortunately, sometimes we can't talk about everything happening, > even > > in the face of > > (emerging) competition. But that shouldn't be misread as an indication > > that nothing is happening behind the scenes. > > > I personally think the economy has stifled some of the payoff from > > Macromedia's efforts, it's stifled just about everything involving > > economics! But eventually you will start to see these efforts start to > > pay off for ColdFusion and CF developers. > > > Nay-sayers can say spout gloom and doom if they will, but CF is on the > > way up. We're just gettin' started! > > > Vernon Viehe > > ColdFusion Community Manager > > Developer Relations > > Macromedia, Inc. > > Online diary: http://vvmx.blogspot.com/ > > -------------------- > > Macromedia DevCon 2002, October 27-30, Orlando, Florida Architecting a > > New Internet Experience Register today at > > www.macromedia.com/go/devcon2002 > > > > > > > > > > > > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~| Archives: http://www.houseoffusion.com/cf_lists/index.cfm?forumid=4 Subscription: http://www.houseoffusion.com/index.cfm?sidebar=lists&body=lists/cf_talk FAQ: http://www.thenetprofits.co.uk/coldfusion/faq This list and all House of Fusion resources hosted by CFHosting.com. The place for dependable ColdFusion Hosting.
